Make your own homemade dishwasher detergent #Cleaning#cleaning products#dishes#eco-conscious#kitchens February 23 2012 | Guest post by Jillee My husband introduced me to Jillee's site and I am in love with her cleaning product tutorials, and so HAPPY Jillee's bringing her recipes to Offbeat Home for the next few weeks. Get ready to get spotless. -Cat I fear my hot water bill is going to be SKY HIGH next month! For the last couple of weeks I have washed and re-washed and re-washed AGAIN load after load of dishes trying to figure out just the right "recipe" for clean and CLEAR dishes! After taking a good, long look at my own dishes, I had to admit that the homemade version wasn't doing quite as good a job as the stuff in the green box I'd been using for years. Of course the store-bought stuff hasn't been doing as good a job as IT used to do either since the ban on phosphates in dishwasher detergent went into effect. It took us MONTHS to figure THAT one out. We actually ended up buying a new dishwasher because we thought our old one (which was pretty old) was not working right anymore. Turns out it wasn't our dishwasher, but the new detergent formulations imposed by the federal government back in 2010. Apparently it has caused quite the uprising among the general dishwashing public. There's even a website called Bubble Bandit that you can buy dishwasher detergent WITH phosphates (they sell "commercial" soap, which is NOT affected by the ban). Or you can go to Home Depot or Lowe's and buy a box of TSP for about $4 and add it to your current detergent. You'll find it in the paint section where it's still sold as a cleaning solution for painters. It's all very complicated, and you're probably asking "What does this have to do with me and my dishes?" Well, I think I have come up with a satisfactory solution without having to go the phosphate route… but I just wanted you to know it IS an option out there for those who are interested. So, all that being said, after probably a dozen "test" loads of dishes, trying different combinations of different ingredients, this is what is working for us! I obviously can't guarantee the same results for you, but I am hopeful you will see the success I have with it! Related Post A kitchen sink organizer made of antlers I wanted to get the sponges and other scrubbing devices out of the sink and out of the way, in such a way that they... Read more The recipe for powdered dishwasher detergent/scouring powder: 1 cup Washing soda or Baking soda (I've seen many recipes that use both so use whatever you have on hand or a combination of the two.) 1 cup Borax (Borax and baking soda/wash are both natural disinfectants and mild abrasives.) 1/4 cup Kosher salt (reduces the effects of hard water) 1/4 cup citric acid (available at brewing places also. Or as an alternative you can use the same amount of Fruit Fresh or two packets of Lemonade-Flavored Kool-Aid, ONLY lemon and ONLY unsweetened!) Add 1 to 2 tablespoons of this mixture to your dishwasher detergent compartment along with 3 drops of dishwashing liquid. Do not use more than three drops. The dishwasher will overflow if you use too much dish soap! Then splash 1/2 to 1 cup of white vinegar into the bottom of the dishwasher and start the machine. Here is what my dishes looked like WITHOUT the vinegar and 3 drops of dish soap: Very same dishes WITH vinegar and dish soap: I have now used this combination of ingredients at least a dozen times with consistent results. I can't tell you what a great feeling it is to open the dishwasher and be greeted by squeaky clean dishes washed with my own homemade mix. 🙂 Battling the high cost of brand name cleaning products is always a good thing. Reporter Name * Reporter Email * Original text Enter the original text here. Edited text* Enter your suggested copyedit here. Notes You can add a note for the editor here. * Required information. Fix Typo Guest post written by Jillee California girl, transplanted and blooming in Utah. In recovery, loving life! http://www.onegoodthingbyjillee.com/ PREVIOUS How to consume ethically: reducing and recycling electronics and home goods NEXT Turn a crappy bi-fold door into a glowing damask enchantment Show/Hide comments [ 64 ] I too noticed a huge difference in our dishes with the new formula of dish washer detergent without phosphates. My husband quickly solved the problem for me, being a former appliance repair technician. He brought home a case of Lemi-Shine one day and it works great, clears up the glass, softens the hard water and removes the hard water stains. For tough loads i always splash some white vinegar in there too, it makes the glasses sparkle! A little tip: clean the dishwasher about once a month. You can buy a separate appliance cleaner in the grocery store, or make your own, but run a cycle with the dishwasher empty to get rid of all the yucky build-up. When that's done, check the holes where the water comes out, and do your best to remove any food particles that may be blocking the holes. I've tried making my own detergent, but i wasn't as persistent as you, i gave up after 3 or so tries. For me, the Arm and Hammer washing soda does not work. I open the dishwasher and there is a hardened cake of it in the bottom, it just doesn't dissolve in my dishwasher, glad it worked for you though. P.S. Borax is awesome! Reply Really nasty dishwasher? Run it empty with a couple packets of lemon Kool-Aid mix. Same concept–the citric acid cleans away just about anything that's in there, though you'll have to clean the food trap by hand. Reply Do I use 1 cup washing soda, 1 cup borax, all of this for 1 load of dishes? Reply no you only use 1 table spoon. and store the rest. Reply Greetings, Borax is dangerous and can result in babies malformations. See the followng link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax "(…) Borax was added to the Substance of Very High Concern (SVHC) candidate list on 16 December 2010. The SVHC candidate list is part of the EU Regulations on the Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals 2006 (REACH), and the addition was based on the revised classification of Borax as toxic for reproduction category 1B under the CLP Regulations. Substances and mixtures imported into the EU which contain Borax are now required to be labelled with the warnings "May damage fertility" and "May damage the unborn child".[ (…)" Member state committee draft support document for identification of disodium tetraborate, anhydrous as a substance of very high concern because of its CMR properties. Adopted on 9 June 2010. Echa.europa.eu. Retrieved on 2012-02-17. Reply I am looking at these "warnings" with a high dose of skepticism. The movement towards self reliance looks like it is making its inroads and corporations may be trying to throw up road blocks – just sayin …. Reply Borax is not harmful to you. If you read the ingredients it says (sodium tetraborate a natural mineral. I think people get this confused with boric acid. It says on the box does not contain phosphates or chlorine. Dishwasher detergent sold in stores contains bleach which give glasses that white cloudy look. You have the internet look things up. Yolanda Reply And, as a note, the government didn't just ban the phosphates for fun. They're said to cause algae blooms that starve sea life of oxygen. So adding phosphates is definitely an option, but this recipe for dish liquid is so easy and full of stuff that's probably already in your kitchen, this might be a more advisable route to go. Have you tried doing the dishes with regular tabs and adding the soap+vinegar? I use the little tabs and a smidge of the liquid detergent stuff, and my dishes have never come out as foggy as the ones in the first picture, but they do have a lot of water spots… I wonder if the vinegar would help? I WILL TRY IT FOR SCIENCE. Reply Hoooooleeeeee frak. Octy and I have been complaining about our sucky apartment dishwasher for a year now and all this time it's been sucky soap? Revelations! I've apparently got a weekend project. 😀 Reply Awesome. I tried making my own, but like a poster above, I gave up after the third try. I'll try this one out tonight. =) Reply I've tried a few recipes for homemade dish washer soap and have always been disappointed. But seeing how clear those glasses are really impresses me. I'm going to try this. Reply I happened to move right when the phosphate ban went into effect, and thought that my new apartment's dishwasher was just really crappy (even though it was obviously much newer). All my dishes developed a rainbow sheen of grime. I use regular gel packs of detergent but add a teaspoon of TSP. So awesome! You can also add TSP to your laundry. Some of my towels had been stained for ages, no matter what I tried, but came out completely clean after one load with TSP. Oh, and less than 1% of phosphates in the environment came from household use before than ban. The rest is from industrial use. The ban was from a bipartisan "feel-good" bill which doesn't affect industrial use. I'd rather have clean dishes (I eat off those, you know!) and clean clothes (I sweat in those!) than fret over my millionth-of-a-percent contribution to algae blooms. Reply Please don't add phosphates or encourage people to add phosphate. The ban is there for a reason. Most naturally occurring phosphate gets into the water system by leaching out of rocks. Now we mine it and a put a ton of it into cleaning products. It causes algal and aquatic plant blooms by removing a natural limitation to growth. When the algae and plants die and sink, bacteria digest them and can use all of the oxygen out of the water (eutrophication). Then other critters die. Home use of phosphates has been shown to be a major cause of eutrophication in lakes in the US. Please don't use it. You can read more about it on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutrophication. Reply Phosphates don't just "contribute to algae blooms", it kills sea life. You won't have an option to eat seafood off those clean dishes much longer if everyone takes on your same attitude! http://www.wri.org/publication/content/7780 Reply I would be really hesitant to use TSP for dishwashing. Have you ever used it on your walls before repainting? It strips all the shine/gloss off of the paint that's on the wall; I suspect that it would do the same to the pattern on your dishes. Reply I can't wait for more installments! We do dishes by hand since there's just two of us but I am interested in laundry soap and stuff! Yay for homemade! Reply Wow! This whole time I've been blaming my apartment dishwasher! In fact, for the last few months we've been washing dishes by hand and using the dishwasher as a giant drainer. I had no idea that the soap was the problem! I really hate washing dishes by hand, so I'm definitely going to give this a try. Reply I found this recipe on a blog somewhere a few weeks back when I was searching for hard water rescues. I haven't tried it, but according to the blogger, this stuff doesn't hold up very well, so you need to mix a fresh batch every wash cycle. That turned me off, but I hope it's useful info for those that want to use this. Reply Amazing! I have used the washing sode-borax-salt mixture in the past and gave up on it because of the residue it left. I will definitely give it another try with vinegar and dawn! Thanks for this post. Reply If anyone is looking for a more eco-friendly in-store dishwasher tablet/detergent, I highly recommend Smarty Dish tablets. After trying all the Seventh Generations, Clean Days, and other brands, Method's Smarty Dish isn't too expensive, pretty readily available, and gets our dishes clean. Reply I just returned from Tarzhay a little while ago and I think they INCREASED the price of the Method Smarty Dish! For a pack of 24 (I use my auto dishwasher 1X per week) they are charging $12.+! I thought they USED to be about $4.-$6. for this! The other dishwashing gel tabs that are good are the blue gel filled FINISH. I formerly tried the Cascade and my dishes always came out cloudy and looked worse than they did when I put them in. That's why I got the FINISH. Out of curiosity, I am going to try this recipe for my own homemade dishwasher detergent and as luck would have it, I already have the ingredients under my kitchen sink for laundry 🙂 AND…for cheap white vinegar – the 99C Only Store has 1/2 gal. for 99c or if you have a Dollar Tree, you can go there for the vinegar and it will cost A DOLLAR 🙂 Reply My dishwasher has a rinse aid dispenser, so I bought some but it didn't work at all. I had the brain wave of filling it with white vinegar and it is amazing! My dishes have never been so sparkly. I thought my dishwasher was broken too, but not anymore. I'm going to try this soap too. I have well water and a septic system, so my water is really hard and I'm careful of the cleaning products I use. This sounds perfect. Reply I'm concerned about the citric acid. I have some flatware that came with a "care guide" that said using lemon-scented dishsoap can cause pitting and rusting of the flatware. What happens if we leave out the lemon? Reply The citric acid/vinegar is much more important is you have hard water. The non-well water here in NE Kansas is VERY hard so we always need a rinse agent for soaps in the washer and dishwasher. So if a homemade or eco-friendly alternative isn't doing it for you, research your water and try adding more vinegar. Reply Mr. Bear and I braved a snowstorm to collect the ingredients for this, and have a load of dishes in the washer right now! I'm cautiously optimistic… Reply …aaaaand it worked great! Just as well, if not better, than the commercial dish soap we've been using. 😀 Reply Rad! I have about a half-box of my pellets left, and when they're out, I'm giving this a go. Reply I can attest to the "Do not use too much dish soap" thing. A male coworker of mine once filled the soap cup in the dishwasher with dish soap. There were suds all over the kitchen. Reply I too tried several versions of home made dishwasher detergent & gave up. Tried this one last night and it worked perfectly!! I believe the cup of vinegar in the bottom of the machine was the magic ingredient, before I had only added vinegar to the rinse aid reservoir and I still had filmy dishes. I hand-rinsed everything in plain water & it came off, but I was discouraged. I've been making my own laundry soap for over a year. Hubby & I are quite excited to have another recipe for home-made cleaning awesomeness. Thanks for experimenting & posting! Reply Thank you so much for posting this!!! I could not BELIEVE how well it worked! For anyone else, if you don't have any citric acid or lemonade kool-aid on hand, I threw some lemon juice in the bottom with the vinegar and it worked GREAT. I'm so, so, SO excited with how clean my first load turned out!!!!! Reply OK so the 3 drops thing was a joke LOL!….I tried it before my kids and it was like DROP LOL! I am hoping that my dishwasher doesn't have a bubble fest LOL!! Thanks for the great ideas I am loving making all the different things out there!! =) Have a great weekend. Reply With four of our five kids at home, we run the dishwasher 1~2x day and we've had consistently great results with this DW recipe over the last month or so. We haven't used liquid drops, and we get by just filling the rinse aid compartment with vinegar. Clean every time! One thing worth mentioning- in addition to the new dishwashing detergent formulas, many claim the tightening energy standards for appliances has resulted in the newer dishwashers in general not cleaning as well as their older counterparts. Reply This works great! I repurposed an empty liquid coffee creamer bottle to put it in…then I can just pour it right in the dispenser. Reply I am going to try this. my dishes look horrible. I had a repairman out and he told me it was the new soap. He also told me to use only about a teaspoon of liquid dish soap, to run the dishwasher on the hottest setting (so much for environmentalism), to use a rinse aid, and to clean out the dishwasher once a month by running it empty and adding 1/4 cup of vinegar once it had filled with water. All those things helped but the dishes still have a sheen on them. Here's my big question: The repairman told me NEVER to use vinegar when any dishes were in the dishwasher. I wonder if he just meant not to use it by itself, and that it's okay with the soap? I am also going to try using TSP, maybe every other load or every three loads. I agree with the poster above that home use is not the problem. Many environmental bills, sadly, are "feel good" bills that don't address the real problems. Reply Can we talk about Borax? I used it as roach poison in a previous apartment. Putting it on dishes sounds scary!! Does anyone know the science of why it would be okay to clean dishes with Borax? Go go gadget Science! Reply Borax is kills bugs because it's a desiccant — it dries them out. The borax isn't going to stick to your dishes (I use it in my laundry too) do you don't have to worry about it affecting you! Reply Borax is OK!!!! Actually GOOD for you. A little LESS harmful than table salt when ingested. (see EarthClinic.com) Reply This relates to the commenter who said that industrial users utilize the majority of TSP and housholds contribute the least. The problem is that industrial users have to abide by environmental regulations and often treat their wastes whereas households are exempt from most environmental regulations. I'd rather have healthy waterbodies than shiny dishes. Reply I've been trying and trying to make this recipe work but to no avail. I'm going to try one more round with more Dawn, but after that I'm done. Better luck next time! Reply Well, can't say I'm impressed. I ran a load, looked inside, ran a rinse only, looked inside, added more powder (of note is that the first batch of powder didn't all come out even through a wash, a rinse, and a rinse) and Dawn and vinegar, ran a whole wash again, looked inside, and now I'm doing a rinse only again. The inside of the dishwasher is still dirty and the dishes still have stuff on them, even though they were rinsed first. I just saw on Jilly's site that she now is loving OxyClean, Dawn, and vinegar. I think I'll give that a try. If I'm still not feeling any love, I guess I'll go back to Ecover tabs, which are great. Reply I agree….we've had the same results. I was very disappointed. I came back to the site to see if anyone might have experienced the same thing. Glad i'm not the only one….would like to find a solution though. Reply I have tried the above recipe with vinegar in the rinse cup for about 2 months. We do not have hard water or soft. It is medium. Just a little calcium. Not only did it not work but it just about ruined all my expensive stainless steel flatware!!! Everything had a film on it. I have used lemonshine which has fixed the film on everything except my flatware even washing it by hand hasn't returned it to its shine. Soaking in vinegar, washing it with baking soda.nothing worked. It still is dull looking. I would really like to use homemade dishwasher detergent as I have great success with other homemade household cleaners. I have searched for a different recipe but can only find the washing soda,salt,citric acid,borax versions. Any suggestions? Reply I wonder if you couldn't forego using the citric acid and the vinegar if you added lemishine to your mix? I'm in love with lemishine…we have hard water and it makes the dishes come out so sparkly. Reply I tried lemishine in another recipe and my detergent hardened into a rock. Reply I have been using this for months and its GREAT! The only problem Im coming up on is that my sliverware is tarnishing like crazy! I have had to eid of it a couple times now, and never had that before. Do you have any idea what is causing it, and how I could try to resolve it while still using this recipe? Reply Thanks for the recipe! I made it and it works GREAT!!! Reply I made my own dishwasher detergent for 2 years and got tired of dishes that looked dirty. So, a couple months ago I purchased detergent. Yuck! The few plastic/rubber items I pull from the dishwasher smell like the detergent and can even flavor our food. I will try the added vinegar and dish on the next load. Thanks for posting the pics to show the difference:) Reply Hi, thank you so much for posting this! I thought I had horrible dishwasher! I also was never satisfied with store bought detergents. Seventh Generation seemed to work the best and it was also phosphate and chlorine free. But, I am fond of making things at home. I will definitely try your recipe out. Do you know if I can use liquid castile soap instead of commercial dish soap? Would it work just as well? Reply I made this and when I was ready to use it a second time it had turned rock hard. Any ideas? Reply Mine did too…..so frustrating….have to use something to break it up. Reply Ok, tried this and have been using it for a week. And it doesn't work for me!!! 🙁 Am I the only one??? I do everything it says to do and my dishes are still cloudy and have a film on them. Reply Maybe your filter is dirty in the dishwasher? Reply How much TSP would you add -? Just curious if this IS the issue with my dishwasher – or not! ? Reply Can you use lemon juice instead of citric acid? If so I could make this right now. Reply Works great! This is the second type of do it yourself dishwasher detergent. The first one clumped into a small rock. Trying this I was was a bit skeptical. I was very surprised that it didn't do that. Using it as suggested with the 3 drops of liquid soap and 1/2 c vinegar… I couldn't be more pleased. Awesome recipe for squeaky clean dishes! Thank you very much! Reply I'VE FOUND PUTTING VINEGAR Alone IN THE EXTRA Cup with my phosphate free detergent in the main cup works great. Reply There's a product called LemiShine that when added in small amounts to the 2nd compartment to the dishwasher make all your dishes SPARKLE!!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE it!!!! Reply I've used this recipe a few times now and am pretty happy with it, but I've noticed when it's all done that I have a slight powdery residue on some of my dishes. Does anyone else get this? I'm using 2 tbs of the powder, so maybe I should try closer to 1? Would love to know if anyone else is having this problem and what they did to solve it, thanks!! Reply The water is HOT enough and NO residue is left I am a male farmer trying to make ends meet and this one works….GREAT STUFF, Thanks PS dishes etc are not poures on the whole so Borax can not penatrate. Reply I used your dishwasher detergent recipe last weekend. I keep it in a sealed mason jar. Each time I use it, I have to chop the top layer loose in order to scoop up a tablespoon to wash my dishes with. Have you had this problem? I make sure to close the jar very tightly, but it still continues to happen. Any suggestions? Reply you can either put a small amount of rice in cheesecloth in your container or find some of those silica gel containers they use in medicine bottles in pharmacy or in shoe boxes. either one works great. BTW, I've tried other homemade recipes. this is best one so far! Reply I've revisited this post time and again since it's gone up giddy over the possibilities. When I finally used this recipe in my dishwasher, it left residue on my dishes and left tiny scratches on my silverware. The only thing that ended up being clean was the glassware. Pots and pans had to be re-washed. I ended up buying Cascade Complete All-in-1 ActionPacs Dishwasher Detergent because of the Amazon reviews saying that this concentrated formula was just as efficient as the phosphate formulas of the past. The reviews were absolutely right and since it ships directly from Amazon, I didn't have to deal with the long shipping time or high handling charges that Bubble Bandit offered. Also, there are listings for the commercial grade Cascade on Amazon that does include phosphates, but because it's pretty high in demand, it's often out of stock and is offered at a higher price. Reply So, after researching this for several days, I have several helpful things to share. First being- washing soda is baking soda heated to a high temp and held until chemical change (about 30 min.) & it is easy to do at home- Yay! Washing soda is $4.29 for 2 lbs. and baking soda (5 lbs) was $6.12 at Sam's. "1 1/3 C baking soda heated in 450 oven for 1 hr = 1 C washing soda" You can look up the in's & out's. (FYI 450 goes a lot quicker & don't bake more than 1/3" deep). Secondly, this recipe works just as well sans the borax. Here is a site, that is not just wikipedia and is a good source for future references, giving borax an F for health related concerns. Environmental Working Group – http://www.ewg.org/guides/cleaners/2507-20MuleTeamBoraxNaturalLaundryBoosterMultiPurposeHouseholdCleaner Lastly, as for the clumping put coarse sand, a chunk of clay, or, as the lady above mentioned, rice and tie it up in the end of pantyhose or cheesecloth and knot it off. Reply I had to come back and post a reply after running my first load of dishes through with this recipe. THANK YOU. You've restored my faith in my dish washer! I swear, my dishes haven't looked this flawless since we got them. I can't see myself using any other method now. Reply Join the conversation Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Subscribe me to your mailing list No-drama comment policy Part of what makes the Offbeat Empire different is our commitment to civil, constructive commenting. Make sure you're familiar with our no-drama comment policy.