Offbeat Home & Life: new family, new header, new Tugboat (…wait, what?) #Site News#patronage September 30 2013 | Offbeat Editors offbeatbride The sad news for today is that Offbeat Families will be ceasing publication, but the silver lining is that Offbeat Home & Life will be producing weekly-ish family-related guestposts, probably stuff like this, or this, or even this… although as always it's up to you guys, since it's based on YOUR submissions. There's always been some editorial cross-over between Families and Home & Life, and we've always struggled with stuff like where should we post the kid rooms? What about the amazing Radiohead birthday parties? And what about those posts about adult family relationship dynamics like dealing estranged parents or adult siblings? Seriously, sometimes we forget which site posted which articles! In many ways, rolling Families into Offbeat Home & Life makes things much easier… although we respect that we may lose some Offbeat Families readers in the shift. We'll miss you. Thanks for a wonderful four years together. Notice anything new up there in the header? Painting by Ursula X. Young Nine months ago, we changed our name to Offbeat Home & Life. While we added "& Life" to our logo, we never changed the header graphics, which meant that even though we shifted to talking about a lot of LIFE stuff, the header still said we were all about housing and decor. So we secured the rights from Ursula X Young to use one of her other gorgeous paintings in our header, in the hopes of better conveying our focus on not just offbeat homes… but also offbeat OCCUPANTS. Obviously, like Offbeat Bride, there's no way any one character could ever represent even the tiniest sliver of our readership's diversity — but we do appreciate that our new Offbeat Home & Life cover girl is blue, green, orange, and purple, hinting at the tip of the offbeat iceberg when it comes to reader identities. If you like our header, we hiiiighly recommend purchasing prints from Ursula. Her work is amazing, and she's a remarkable woman. What is Tugboat Yards and why should you care? Ok now wait: wtf is this about Tugboats? Well, here's the deal: after our post about all the ways readers can support the Offbeat Empire, we continued to get feedback from readers that they wished there were other ways to show their support… ways that maybe were a bit easier to understand. One person was like, "You're willing to take money from readers to buy whiskey for OTHER PEOPLE, but not for yourselves? That's weird!" To which Megan responded with, "cheers to that!" and raised her glass full of self-bought whiskey. We have our reasons for not accepting donations, but ok, fine, yes, we hear you: you want a direct way to support the site. That's why we've decided to team up with a service called Tugboat Yards to make it easy for Offbeat Home & Life readers to support the site. Unlike the Offbeat Bride Tribe, we've got no premium features to offer — basically, if you want to get some warm fuzzies, you can do so. If you don't have the budget (and believe us, WE GET IT), there's no pressure. We have offerings ranging from a one-time $5 tip to buy an editor a drink, all the way up to a $200/mo patron level where you get to sit in on our editorial advisory board. If this turns into something sustainable, we can look into getting rid of our more invasive advertising, like the floaty mobile banners that everyone hates, and the animated banners at the top of each Offbeat Home & Life page. If you're curious about Tugboat Yards, clicky zee button: Become a supporter Ok. Holy fuck. That was a lot to take in. Who has questions? Who has feels? Operators are standing by! Reporter Name * Reporter Email * Original text Enter the original text here. Edited text* Enter your suggested copyedit here. Notes You can add a note for the editor here. * Required information. Fix Typo PREVIOUS Offbeat Families won't be publishing new posts, but our archive will stay online FOREVER (and we'll still be on Facebook) NEXT Check out this awesome Megaman bedspread! Show/Hide comments [ 102 ] So sorry to see the ending of offbeat families (especially as I finally see myself as a parent reader/contributor) but looking forward to seeing the shared content of family life on offbeat home. And I'm excited that Stephanie is working together with Megan. Between crap cooking and ugly diy it should be some fun posts! 11 agree Reply Maybe I need to head down to LA for a weekend of DIYing our own meals with Megan? It could be amazing. 20 agree Reply Omg! That would be awesome. 6 agree Reply AND OF COURSE more movie tours. 2 agree Reply this needs to happen. (please) 4 agree Reply Wow, that IS a lot to take in! Initially I was very sad about Families' demise, because I was looking forward to trying to get pregnant in the future and having it all become super relevant to me. But now that I've read this, I am totally excited because merging the Families content into Home & Life makes a lot of sense. 🙂 6 agree Reply Also I did notice the new header (before reading this) and was confused for a moment – had I always just missed the pretty blue lady? Had I been blind? Was I going crazy? But now it's all explained, yay! 🙂 4 agree Reply Yeah, given all the stuff our developer had to deal with today with Families' shut down, I gave her the go-ahead to switch up the Home header a couple days early. I was waiting to see if anyone said anything! 😛 Reply That was my immediate reaction: makes total sense to me!!! Also – it would be great to have more "family" (really, really broadly defined) or relationship profiles that don't necessarily involve a wedding or marriage! 12 agree Reply Agreed- I didn't read Families because I don't have or want children, but occasionally I'd miss a really good post over there that actually would've been relevant to me- glad to see they'll all be here now 🙂 3 agree Reply I was wondering about the new header – beautiful! Reply Wait a second! I was totally SAD that Families was shutting down but when I came to the site, the article directly below this was "Budget Hacks for when you are broke as a joke" and now I am totally psyched that OFFBEAT is going to be directing me in ALL aspects of my life (not just parenting!) – FIST PUMP! 11 agree Reply 12 agree Reply JIGGLY CALIENTE! 3 agree Reply Love the new header! I am glad that we won't be losing the Families content, just combining & refining. I have a guilty pleasure of reading the birth stories 🙂 5 agree Reply Sadly, it looks like birth stories might not be in the mix anymore: (from the Families post) "These won't look like what you're used to — we won't be running new posts on extended breastfeeding or birth stories, for example — but there will be some GOOD stuff on there." http://offbeatfamilies.com/2013/09/the-end 4 agree Reply I'm totally going to miss the more family-specific aspect to OBF, like the birth stories, but sympathise with WHY and am appreciative of the changes 🙂 🙁 birth stories 10 agree Reply Combine this news with my post pregnancy hormones and toss in a little new baby sleep deprivation and I am surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) emotional about this. Oh the feelings. 14 agree Reply Oh man. Feels. I'm a little sad about Offbeat Families, even though I totally understand why it had to be let go. I was a Tribesmaid and dreamed about maybe someday sharing my birth story on Offbeat Families or something else badass. Then again, I haven't even submitted the profile of our Batman/Blues Brothers Fiesta wedding a year later (get it together, Kathleen), so I was probably just kidding myself. Anywho, I'm excited to see those family related concepts come into Offbeat Home & Life. Come payday, I'm totally buying an Offbeat Editor a drink. 3 agree Reply Related: please submit this wedding (And OBB please run it!) because I would real the HELL out of that. Must. Know. More. o.O 1 agrees Reply as someone w/ out kids, I sometimes notice offbeat family posts on my tumblr dashboard, and I think "wow, Harry Potter conventions!" (for example), and then I am slightly disappointed when I find out the "Harry Potter conventions" post is in families and not h&l. So, yay, I can't wait to read more about Harry Potter conventions and the like, whether children are involved or not! 9 agree Reply Yeah, there were always some interesting issues with Offbeat Families inclusiveness, even after we moved away from the Offbeat Mama name… here's to it all being here on Offbeat Home & Life! 2 agree Reply I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords! *ahem* I'm actually kind of excited about this change. I always felt a little weird reading and commenting on Offbeat Families posts, being unmarried and childfree (yes, yes, you did a very good job being inclusive of all kinds of families, but I wanted to read it ALL and didn't want to justify to other people why I was reading posts about childbirth and breastfeeding (for the record, it's because all that shit is really really interesting even if it might never apply to me)). Now I can get all the non-wedding content in one place! Yay! 29 agree Reply Ah, also a little sad to be losing some of the more intensely parenting-focused content. But also excited again for more Stephanie here! Stephanie + Megan 4eva! …yeah, roller coaster of emotions for everyone. 5 agree Reply Yeah, I sometimes felt weird about reading Families not having kids myself yet (undecided). But the "how families work" posts apply to everyone. And the book round ups are great for people who need gifts for kids. And I know I lot of people feel differently, but I will not miss the birth stories. ( The ones I read were great submissions, just not my cup of tea.) 4 agree Reply Totally understand on the birth stories! Some of them left me really squirmy, but I guess I'm glad I have the knowledge anyway, if that makes sense? I'm leaning towards no kids myself, but if I ever did it's been really interesting to hear about all the home births, since I don't think I'd ever go that route. Actually, my favorite posts were the ones about dealing with family drama, especially among adults. They've started bleeding over to Offbeat Home anyway, so I'm glad they'll all be brought here! 2 agree Reply I read both blogs, but as a woman who's currently pregnant with her first (and OMG anxious!), I'm incredibly sad to hear this, especially an end to birthy/breastfeeding type content. Families really was one of the only sane places on the internet regarding such subjects, and has been keeping me grounded. Bummer! I'm glad there will still be some families content here though. Besides Stephanie's posts, will the focus of the blog expand to include more kid relationships and parenting type content submissions? 33 agree Reply Besides Stephanie's posts, will the focus of the blog expand to include more kid relationships and parenting type content submissions? To clarify, the Families posts on Offbeat Home will ALL still be reader submissions, same as they were on Offbeat Families. 🙂 Stephanie produces the posts, but she won't be writing most of them. (I'll edit this post to clarify that!) Reply I'm also sad to hear there might be less of or maybe no more of my favorite types of posts. Even as a part of a childless couple, I find birthing stories endlessly fascinating. You might want to check out birthwithoutfearblog.com or its facebook page. They constantly post birth stories. It's for sure not the same as Offbeat Families (I can't recall any same-sex couple stories, for example 🙁 Also, they use acronyms!), but overall they do attempt to be open to many types of experiences and discussions. 8 agree Reply This is me almost exactly. I'm pregnant with my first and have been lurking and reading on offbeatmama and then offbeatfamilies every since I made it through "The Wedding" unscathed (and surprisingly, compared to my non-internet friends, unstressed). I love kids, I've always wanted to have kids, and I'm super excited (and let's face it NERVOUS) about birth, breastfeeding, sleeping, diaper blow-outs, sharing responsibilities fairly with the partner, and all that fun jazz. So I am very sad about losing my very favorite blog on the web. I have been reading offbeathome simultaneously, for over a year and will continue to do so. For me today, this feels like a loss of content, although I absolutely understand that businesses need to be profitable and I respect Ariel's choices to make her business run. *HUGS* to the offbeat homies. 14 agree Reply I do have a content question though. How do you all envision the weekly families post playing out. I saw on the offbeat families post that the more family specific topics (birth stories and extended breast feeding being the ones used in the post) probably won't get features but the more 'life' posts (bed room decor, birthday party decorations and family dynamic posts mentioned above) will. I'm not asking to complain, just wondering as a long time (border line compulsive) reader of offbeat families. 5 agree Reply Totally awesome question! The posts will vary — sometimes they'll be fun stuff like parties, sometimes they'll be a little deeper. For example, one of the upcoming posts is by a father who is reflecting back on his own childhood now that he's a parent. I think we're all going to be learning what does and doesn't work a lot this month, and we'll definitely be welcoming feedback on the process. It was important to make sure it's clear that we probably won't be running some of the stuff that Families readers are used to, but I also want to make sure it's clear that it's not going to ONLY be parties and bedrooms. I actually had a conversation with Megan about maybe running this breastfeeding post on Home and framing it as an open discussion about breastfeeding in public — how different people feel/react. I decided to close Families with that post instead, but Megan was open to the topic (it was her idea to frame it that way), so we'll all be working it out to see what flies and feels right. tl;dr: we're all learning, and we're going to see how it goes. Ariel might jump in with a more clear answer, but for now that's what I've got! 🙂 7 agree Reply It will be interesting to see how the new content works out. I have written a few posts for offbeat families now and am sad to see it go- it will be good to see what the new "tone" or direction of family based posts will be. Reply I'm hoping to do lots of posts like this: http://offbeatfamilies.com/filed/features/identities Those were always my favorites on Offbeat Families! 🙂 Reply I'm so glad we're not losing Stephanie!! I was already an Offbeat Home & Life reader, but Offbeat Families was my go-to. I totally understand and can't wait to see the new posts, but I'm a little taken aback by how sad I am. Like, teared up at the computer sad. And I wasn't even a big commenter!! There's something wrong with me. Can I request a post on, "How to deal with blog-loss, or Why didn't I buy more things on Offbeat Mama, I did this to myself and it's all my fault." 24 agree Reply Write that guestpost! I'd totally read it! 8 agree Reply I'm sad about Families but the sadness is small compared to the high level of trust I have in the decisions of Ariel and the editorial staff of the Empire. Looking forward to seeing what happens with Home and Life!! (And SUPER happy that Stephanie isn't going away!) 33 agree Reply I LUH YOU. Reply I'm a borderline-compulsive reader of Families, and planning to start the whole having-a-kid journey within a soon-ish timeframe, so I'm super bummed to be losing that site. I'm glad to hear you'll be incorporating some of the kid/family posts into Home & Life, and I love that site too, but I'm sad we'll be losing the birth stories and more intensely parenting-focused content. Those were some of my favorite posts to read, and it's kinda hard to find open-minded, non-insane sites dedicated to families and child-rearing. Can we have an online (probably drunk) grieving party or something? 17 agree Reply Hahahah I briefly considered offering to host a Google Hangout tonight in my post! 😉 4 agree Reply This seems so silly to me, but I'm actually tearing up right now. I've published some of my own stories on families, and I love it so very much. Didn't realized how attached I was! I'll have to update all my "most used" little quick buttons in Chrome to H&L. Miss you guys already. 🙁 10 agree Reply Read all 3 posts about this change. SO MANY FEELS!! 7 agree Reply Bummer city! Would it be inappropriate to ask where other folks go for judgey-free parenting info? As a relatively new step-parent (no bio kids), OBF was my one resource during this process that I could go to. All the other step blogs were either super negative/judgmental or they were all ending with the blogger's marriage ending (not super inspiring reading). 16 agree Reply Not inappropro at all. While I hope Offbeat Families readers will give Offbeat Home & Life a chance, I totally respect readers looking elsewhere. That said, it's pretty slim pickins when it comes to constructive, non-judgey parenting websites… 1 agrees Reply Oh, I read OHL every day too 🙂 2 agree Reply I wish I could find some sort of un-crazy parenting forum. Baby center and the bump are all sorts of whacko 15 agree Reply I came across this mom-centric blog over the weekend (maybe the universe prepping me for the news today?) and think it might fit some of our needs for birth stories and the like… http://muthamagazine.com/about/ what I've read so far seems good. time will tell, though 🙂 But maybe reading it in combination with OBH I can feel like fulfilled like a child of divorced parents? 2 agree Reply I've been reading birthwithoutfearblog.com for a few years. The posts are definitely non-judgy over there, but since it's mainly about birth and postpartum it's definitely not the same as Offbeat Families. 1 agrees Reply I would very much like suggestions for this. I do read Offbeat Bride and Offbeat Home & Life every day, but I'm currently trying to conceive and haven't been able to find a web home for that part of my life. 2 agree Reply I'm so sad to hear about Offbeat Families, but excited to see more content/activity on Home and Life! I will definitely continue to read H&L every day. I've been reading Mommyish in addition to Offbeat Families for a while now, and have found it to be pretty awesome – the tone of the website is a little more cynical, but you see people being honest about parenting/pregnancy and most commenters are down-to-earth folk. In particular, I've found their Anonymous Mom feed of reader-submitted posts to have a similar vibe to the strikingly-honest-and-amazing Offbeat Families submissions: http://www.mommyish.com/tag/anonymous-mom/ Reply oh man thanks for sharing the mommyish Anonymous Mom link. I was out sick from work yesterday and read like all of them. That definitly looks like it might come close to filling the offbeatfamilies hole in my life. I like Home & Life for the meatier posts and tend to skim through once a week for the non house porn/ cute stuff posts. Actually I think the posts I liked have always been tagged 'families' anyways so I don't expect to my readership to change much. But a good non-judgy parenting blog or forum is seriously needed on the interwebs now. Reply Being unmarried and childless (FOR NOW), I was probably a little (okay a lot) more upset about Families closing than I should have been, but I am really happy that everything is staying up and archived and that Stephanie will be bouncing her awesome self over to the others Offbeat Sites as an editor. 🙂 NEW ADVENTURES ARE EXCITING. Also, I love the addition to the header and ways to support the sites and the wonderful people behind them! 🙂 6 agree Reply This is interesting to me as someone that was never very interested in Offbeat Families but loves Home and Life. My fiance and I are child-free with no real interest in changing that any time in the near future, so aside from the very few CF posts on Families, I never ventured over there much. I'm curious to see how H&L adapts over the next few months. Will there be more content generated per day/week now that H&L will have more Families-related content, or will there just be a shift in the type of content without an increase in amount? 5 agree Reply This summer, Megan's been producing an average of 12 Offbeat Home posts a week. With Stephanie pitching in, it should be more like 15 posts/week. So yeah, it'll be up, but probably not quite to Offbeat Bride levels, which averages 18 posts/week. 5 agree Reply This is what I'm wondering as well. OBH is my ONLY link in bookmarks (shows how much I love you guys!). From there I just click the buttons/tabs to go where I need to go. I'm kinda obsessive over OBH (and need to contribute more, for real), and I'm hoping for more. I guess it's a circle of life thing though. More content = more submitters = more content = more submitters. 1 agrees Reply Yeah, more content = more submitters is part of the equation, but it's also more advertising = more content. Blogs aren't like magazines or alt-weeklies where the length of the publication will literally get longer/shorter based on the number of advertisements being purchased, but more ads DO lead to more content. Fingers crossed. 2 agree Reply I wish I could have donated to keep Families alive. The most valuable content was the sort of personal stories that won't appear on Home and Life, and can't be found anywhere else online. 🙁 18 agree Reply Over the past four years, I've tried all sorts of business models to make Offbeat Mama/Offbeat Families sustainable. I did a donation drive for the site back in 2010, and while it staunched the site's financial hemorrhaging for a few months, it's just not a sustainable way to run a business. I wish it could have worked out differently, but ultimately I'm really excited about putting all our efforts into Offbeat Home & Life! 5 agree Reply SO MANY FEELS. Reply Dude, tell me about it. It's been non-stop staff therapy sessions up in the Offbeat Empire for the past couple weeks. 13 agree Reply As an aside, I need this .gif for posts on the Tribe. It sums up my feels so perfectly. 2 agree Reply I snagged it from Gyphy, which is basically the best thing ever: http://giphy.com/ Reply Another really sad reader here. I mean, I totally understand, because as someone who has read every single "Families" post and had a couple of things published, I never once bought anything from the site. But still really really sad to see it go. Mommyish isn't quite the same, but there are a wide variety of opinions over there and the commenters aren't (usually) batshit. And I can say that because of course I'll keep reading H&L. 6 agree Reply I enjoy reading Mommyish too! I pop over from time to time through STFU Parents, and then click through to other things that look interesting. The comments are generally supportive, and the ones that aren't do tend to get downvoted, so if you don't scroll too far you can avoid most of the crazy. Eve's articles in particular are my favorites. 1 agrees Reply I might be the only person who is actually happy about this change..sorry! but I think this will make the articles way more interesting to read. I often missed the point of many Offbeat families posts: to me comments were often along the lines of "yay! I do things this way, too" or "No, I do things differently" which is not exactly compelling unless you are making those choices yourself. Plus, not visually stimulating enough for me. I am not one of those readers who cares about the Empire/wants to support the staff/gets emotionally attached/disables adblock before browsing so for me the only reason to come back is good content and I think this will make the content better and more interesting for a larger group of people. It's interesting how Offbeat Home was the one which looked like it was dying and it's now taking central stage. I can only say I am excited. 6 agree Reply I have mixed emotions about this, of course. I've loved OBF content. I've been a devoted OBE reader and sponsor for years. While OBB constitutes 70% of my business, the three times I was featured on OBM/F, I didn't get a single lead. It just…didn't happen. You gotta do what you gotta do. I applaud you for making the tough choice. For people who miss breastfeeding and birth story posts (I'll miss the birth stories!) perhaps there could be, like, a special TaTas Week- Breastfeeding, body image, piercing tips, surgery stories- (choices to reduce, augment, reconstruct, for cis and trans women?), health and mammogram info guest written by someone who knows about such things, and cancer activism posts for all things boob-related? Or a week of birth stories every year right around Labor Day? That way those two subjects don't have to go away completely? 14 agree Reply I really really really love this idea. And it gets me teary-eyed hopeful that there could still be the possibility of having some of the content I've loved from OBF at least featured once a year (like Mother's Day/Father's, or you say Labor Day, and the tata idea sounds awesome!). 3 agree Reply Luckily, Offbeat Home already has this very tag: http://offbeathome.com/tag/boobs 2 agree Reply Yes, I'd totally be in favour of week specials. it seems sad that the breastfeeding / birth story content that so much of us love will just die completely, and having a week would mean that the Homies wouldn't get it al the time. Seems like a good compromise to me (and something to look forward to!). Isn't birth story week something that used to happen on OBF? 3 agree Reply Although unmarried (for the next 8 months!) and childless, I loved Offbeat Families (except for the birthing stories, lol, which, call me immature, still weirded me out no matter how tame!). I'm really sorry to see it go!! I hope I'm just as interested in the new OHL (I honestly never really read OHL yet… will have to start trying!) Onwards… ! 🙂 1 agrees Reply I'm a bit sad about this – 'annoyed' isn't the right word, because I'm not MAD at you guys or anything – but I'm just not interested in the birth stories, pregnancy, little kid stuff AT ALL, I just like looking at the home & life content. I really hope there is still a good balance of posts that are relevant to me rather than just mommy stuff, although I have my faith in the empire staff. EDIT: Okay I just read all the other comments – basically ignore everything I said. I see there won't be an influx of birth stories etc. Now I'm excited! 6 agree Reply I love both Offbeat Home (& Life!) and Offbeat Families, and I've suspected for a while that one was going to be shut down, so this is sort of bittersweet for me – to that end, I will celebrate more family-and-life content on Offbeat Home & Life! Reply Congrats on this new chapter for OBLH!! Sometimes we have to ends great adventures in order to start new ones. I'm very exited about this one! 🙂 1 agrees Reply Well, this is about as disappointing as it gets. I'm 41 weeks pregnant with my first, and discovered Offbeat Families just a couple of months ago. Since I live in the Bible belt and am a crazy liberal, OF was basically my lifeline for non-awful parenting stories and evidence that I could be the kind of Mom I really want to be. I haven't found anything similar anywhere on the web and I'm really disappointed to lose what was really my only internet resource for POSITIVE, inclusive, and unconventional parenting/family stories and advice. And I can already tell that the once-weekly "dose" on OHL isn't really going to cut it for me. So… yeah. 🙁 10 agree Reply As someone who is from the South (born in Louisana, raised in Alabama) and who is also suuuuper liberal, I just wanted to put it out there that I never had any problem finding like-minded friends — before parenthood and after. Since you're new to the site/Empire you might not have seen these two posts about finding parent friends: http://offbeatfamilies.com/2010/08/finding-mom-friends & http://offbeatfamilies.com/2010/11/finding-friends. Maybe they can help! And as an editor, I really hope you'll give the posts on Home & Life a chance before deciding. What's great about this merging is that Home & Life already has a TON of content that's relevant to parents and caregivers — it's just not framed around being a parent and/or caregiver all the time. I think this is going to be a really great transition and relationship between the sites and the readerships. I'm excited! 3 agree Reply I'm excited; although I know that Offbeat Families was meant for all families, and occasionally went over there to look for posts on childfree subjects or things having to do with adult family dynamics, I never really felt like it was a place for me while I searched hard for those things among all the pregnancy and baby posts. I'm looking forward to knowing that the posts that will be relevant to my current family will be here where I won't miss them, and I can still just scroll past anything that isn't the same way I would a decor theme that didn't interest me. 4 agree Reply Yeah, while Families has always had a childfree archive at http://offbeatfamilies.com/tag/childfree I can't say that wandering onto the homepage was always a great experience for non-parent types. Heck, even for me as a parent sometimes I'd click over and be like O_o 6 agree Reply Is there an easy way to find a list or cloud of tags in use on any given Offbeat site? It's easy to click on the childfree tag once I've found a childfree post but I've always had trouble finding my way to one in order to proceed from there. 1 agrees Reply Of course… it's because I'm 38 weeks pregnant. The impending arrival of my demon spawn led OBF to shut down lest my birth story submission be JUST TOO COOL TO HANDLE. Or something like that. I have to say, as a guest post contributor to Offbeat Home & Life, this just motivates me more to submit other guest posts. I was so torn as to where to focus more of my attention after I got pregnant, being afraid that if I wrote something kid-centric, it wouldn't have a place at OBH – but I transitioned personally from OBB to OBH and I didn't want to leave just because of parenthood. Now, I know that I can 100% belong. Also, to those looking for a parenting site alternative, it can be super judgey in certain forums and at certain times, but I find the Mothering website to be mostly in line with a lot of the OBF philosophies. I've made some really good online friends there on my birth month club. Not for everyone, definitely crunchy granola leaning, but some of the articles are really good. 1 agrees Reply Upon reading the news about Offbeat Families, my first reaction was, "What? WHY?" followed by, "Oh, I get it, it must be April Fool's Day! Haha! You won't get me this year!" But of course it ISN'T April Fool's Day, and you answered the "why" of the decision. For some reason I always assumed that Families was more successful that Home & Life, even though Home & Life is the one I check every day. I'm glad some of the Families-type content will be brought over to Home & Life, and really glad you're leaving the old Families posts up! 2 agree Reply I am pretty upset about this. I understand the reasons why, and I'm not mad at any people, but I have reached a point where I am planning on starting my own family relatively soon and was excitedly looking through all the old Families posts and getting giddy about all the content actually being timely and relevant (I've always read it religiously, but this time it was with new, fresh, hopeful eyes). I'm not going to lie- I seriously saw OBF as a huge part of my upcoming journey and felt good knowing that the internet had my back. I'm glad to see that some content will be included here, but it doesn't sound like the things that I would want (need) the most. Here's hoping to find it other places- though that doesn't sound super likely. =( 15 agree Reply This is kinda how I feel. I planned my wedding using OBB as my default resource and was excited when I allowed myself to "graduate" to OBH. I was so happy that there was a place for me, a recently married gal who may have kids in the future. I was soooo looking forward to being able to graduate to OBF when I had kids of my own– sure I read it every now and then but I really wanted it to be there someday in the future. I'm pretty upset and disappointed about this change, especially how there will be fewer stories about babies and kids. I too worry where I'll find an "offbeat" support group when it's time for me to be an offbeat mommy myself. I understand the reasoning behind the change, but that doesn't mean I have like it at all. I am teh sad :'( hopefully this change will ultimately be for the better. Fingers crossed. 3 agree Reply I am a bit dubious, despite the reassurances that it won't be all birth and breastfeeding stories. Offbeat Families kinda annoyed me in general, I'm just not into that stuff, I love my family and I love kids but I'm not interested in reading that. My interest in Offbeat Home and Life dropped considerably when it changed from Offbeat Home I'll stick around but if it really focuses on all of the family and life stuff at the further detriment of the home stuff (because the home stuff really dropped off when the life tag was added) this will be one reader that will stop coming back. I'm not threatening but it's just not my thing. I come here for ideas, hints, holiday ideas, activity ideas and tips and cool things to decorate and excite my life with, all the introspective stuff just isn't for me. 6 agree Reply I'm skeptical, but open. I have been an enthusiastic H&L participant since its launch, but Families hasn't ever interested me much. The birthing stories and stuff like that just aren't my cup of tea at all, and as a childfree person I'm not that interested in child-rearing issues. I did enjoy the posts about alternative family structures, so I'd welcome those. But I really hope the other stuff is a small-to-nonexistent portion of H&L content. Obviously not everyone feels the same way, though! 8 agree Reply I was looking at offbeatfamilies as what's next? I'm no longer birthing and breastfeeding. I'm dancing around with my toddler while she's wearing a princess dress and I'm wearing steampunk. The blog and my life no longer intesected Reply I've gotta admit, once it changed from Home to & Life, my interest did drop from "why are there only three posts a dayyyyy" to checking in once a week, once every other week. But I'm sticking around and supporting in the hopes that we with the shift from advertising to crowd-funding we might see a little more focus on DIY? Also, we only really have ourselves to blame, we gotta submit more home stuff 🙂 1 agrees Reply First: I am so, so happy to have an opportunity to support the Empire via Tugboat. I *LOVE* sponsored posts and never want those to go away but the sidebar/banner ads? Meh. I could live without those. Second: I just went to Tugboat and they won't accept my Indonesian credit card! :'( Do they have a workaround? A connection to PayPal or another payment method? Third: I never read OffbeatFamilies, but I'm still sad to see it go — but super happy to see Stephanie stay on. Can't wait to see what she comes up with for the other sites. 1 agrees Reply Here's the list of international options for Tugboat Yards payments: http://help.tugboatyards.com/kb/accounts-and-community/im-not-in-the-us Looks like Indonesia isn't on the list yet. 🙁 If you just want to use paypal, we could do that separately. Email us and we'll scheme: http://offbeatempire.com/contact Reply If another site gets euthanized please make it on a Friday. I go into Offbeat withdraw over the weekend. I was so looking forward to my fix today and this was brutal. I can't even imagine if it had been Offbeat Home (my main Offbeat page)! 4 agree Reply Oooh wow! This is BIG news! I do have quite a few feels over losing an offbeat site, I think it makes a lot of sense. Families and Home had so much crossover potential too. I'm excited to see how it all works out. Welcome to the readers from Families! 2 agree Reply First reaction – what?! Disbelief. Then… Nooooooooooooo! Sadness. I switched from Offbeat Bride to Offbeat Mama over a year ago when I became a mama myself. It was so good, like-minded ideas, non-judgemental, open, interesting…. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! What a shame to see it go. Gah! Phoooey… sniff sniff… 3 agree Reply When I first read the title that OBF was closing I got a little panicky, thinking that Stephanie was going away. But now that it's clear she's staying I really don't give a fuck about OBF. To me, the entire OBE is just a platform for Ariel & Co to write so as long as they're doing that I don't care how it's formatted or even really what the subject matter will be. I'm happy to let them decide. 1 agrees Reply Will the old Offbeat Family posts be put somewhere accessible or will they be just completely removed? I'd like to be able to refer to some of the past posts when I start a family. :). Reply Alex, as written about here, absolutely NO Offbeat Families posts will be moved or deleted. Reply I know I caught onto this late, but woah, big news. Im so relieved that mama posts will still be available. I have popped over to read bits and was looking forward to it being more relevant when I have bubbas. I totally trust you guys to keep the empire awesome and will stay loyal! I know it must have been a hard decision so respect for all your hard work. The empire has meant a lot to me and will continue to so big thanks! Might even finally submit a post <3 Reply Alright, third time's the charm with actually getting this comment written! I am upset, I came really close to panicking and crying when I read the news yesterday, especially as it took me until the third post to find open comments. I feel blindsided, and I'm mourning the loss of quantity of content, even though I know the quality will still be good. One post a week is a huge downgrade from 12-15, and I already felt like there weren't as many posts as I'd like across the empire. I learn so much from you guys, and I'm really heartbroken to be losing a part of that. I know you guys did what you had to, and I do trust you to keep the rest of the sites awesome, but man … this sucks. 5 agree Reply I'm feeling the same way, I am trying to keep it in perspective but there is really nothing else out there like offbeat families and I am going to miss it so much. 2 agree Reply Bummer for Offbeat Families, but score for Home & Life to get Stephanie. I'm also super excited to be able to support the site with just $5/month. That's cheaper than buying one magazine a month, and I get waaaay more info from the site than any magazine I buy and read in like 2 hours. 🙂 1 agrees Reply This is exactly how i just justified this to my husband. Reply Ooooh… I'm sure this makes me a terrible person, but as a childless-by-choice OBH&L reader I'm glad there's not going to be birth stories and breastfeeding articles in here…. cuz it would totally ick me out, but I'm sure I'd end up reading it anyways cuz it'd be like a train-wreck, where you don't want to look but you can't tear your eyes off it. Then I'd probably just have to stop coming in here, and that would make me sad. But hooray for Harry Potter! 5 agree Reply I didn't realise how attached to offbeat families until I read this. I found the OB empire when I was planning my wedding and was a part of OBB. Right now I'm feeling pretty upset. I might need to give it a couple of days before I can move on to feeling positive about the future potential of the change. 2 agree Reply I decided not to comment on this post when I was being hit by the initial wave of ALL THE FEELS. By now, I've had some time to think about things, and ponder where my continued sadness is coming from. I read OBB religiously leading up to my engagement, then became involved on the Tribe (and mostly tailed off reading OBB). I'd already started reading OBH pretty much daily before we got married, and ever since I've been reading both OBH and OBM/OBF pretty regularly (usually I check both sites multiple times per day). Obviously you need to do what's best for your business, so I'm not going to criticize your decision. It does, however, make me sad that OBF wasn't sustainable. I think, as a devoted reader of both sites (and contributor currently mostly to OBH because we're not having kidlets yet, but plan to later), what saddens me most is that there's simply less total content for me to read. I read most of the posts on both sites, so rolling them into one on the one hand means I only need to check one site, but I really enjoyed the content of each. I really liked some of the content you've said you won't be publishing on OBH&L (in my more obsessive baby-crack phases I've read every single birth story you've ever published), and I'll miss that. But really it's the decrease in total content that makes me the most sad. (That and I'm a little disappointed in the world in general that it couldn't make something as awesome as OBF sustainable…). Best of luck with the continued transition. I'll be here reading, commenting, and occasionally contributing — and hopefully I'll be able to find money in the budget to help make the site sustainable, since I very much believe in supporting the things that support me! 3 agree Reply Join the conversation Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Subscribe me to your mailing list No-drama comment policy Part of what makes the Offbeat Empire different is our commitment to civil, constructive commenting. 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