Painting your son's toenails and other crimes against society #Offbeat Families in the media#gender#LGBTQ April 12 2011 | Offbeat Editors offbeatbride Thanks to Meg for emailing us about the media debate currently raging over a J. Crew ad showing a designer painting her five-year-old son's toenails pink. The debate was sparked off by a Fox News columnist freaking out about how this ad is "a dramatic example of the way that our culture is being encouraged to abandon all trappings of gender identity" … but the rest of the media is playing along, with one headline screaming "J. Crew Wants Your Kid To Be Transgendered." The original J. Crew ad, showing a designer with her son While I chalk most of this hysteria up to a 24-hour news cycle, a columnist baiting people into debate, and pundits trying to whip people into a froth in the name of more eyeballs (I'm a media cynic), there are larger issues to be discussed here… The the claim that painting your kids toenails could "turn him gay" or "make him transgender" really points to the larger cultural split between the "born this way" vs. "it's a choice" schools of thought on sexual orientation and gender identity. If gender identity was something that a parent could influence by, say, painting your kid's toenails … wouldn't all the generations of LGBT and genderqueer adults who were forced into standard gender roles as children have turned out nice 'n' straight and gender-normative? We all know that doesn't work, so why is allowing kids to play somehow damaging. The logic baffles me. My even larger question is this: why is childhood exploration of gender identity so scary? Kids explore all manner of identities, but why is this is the one that terrifies people? A note on comments: don't take the original columnist's bait TOO seriously. He's definitely just trying to piss people off. Reporter Name * Reporter Email * Original text Enter the original text here. Edited text* Enter your suggested copyedit here. Notes You can add a note for the editor here. * Required information. Fix Typo PREVIOUS Animal House kitchen gadgets for the not-so-serious chef NEXT The Royal Tenenbaums meet Amelie in a colorful, book-filled New York apartment Show/Hide comments [ 94 ] But his little penis will fall off if he's not wearing blue and playing football, you guys!! Reply PS: My son discovered green sparkly fairy wings on our porch this weekend and has been wearing them almost 24/7 since. His genitals appear to be intact. Reply My two year old son LOVES hair clips. Especially the pink ones with the bunnies on them. He puts them in his hair, stands in front of the bathroom mirror, and says proudly "Lookit Mama! I look like a pretty girl!" Then he procedes to smash his trucks together and get muddy digging for worms in the garden, just like every other little boy we know. Only *they* don't have cool hair clips to wear while they do it. Reply Hahaha. My daughter wears her Papa's boots and stomps about growling and kicking her cars around, but also plays sweetly with her barbies and tells you to hush when they're sleeping. Gender-bending my butt! Kids will be kids and its perfectly normal to experiment as a young child. Reply And, though not a new thought, why is okay for little girls to wear ball caps, and traditionally "boy" clothes but when a boy does it there is some shame involved? As if there is something wrong with pink, or dressing like a "girl". Reply This is how I think about it. Man is normative, and female is lesser. If a female takes on "male" attributes, she is embracing the normative. If a male takes on something coded "female," he is making himself lesser. It is terrifying. Reply Yep, or in the words of Madonna: Girls can wear jeans And cut their hair short Wear shirts and boots 'Cause it's OK to be a boy But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading 'Cause you think that being a girl is degrading Reply In Renaissance England, there were extreme laws to protect against a woman dressing as a man because that meant she was trying to be something more important and greater than she was born. A man dressing as a woman was a lark. The same was true about dressing higher than one's class–big no, no. But lower wasn't. It's interesting to me that the same fear is motivating these insane comments, but they have taken a different tack. Reply I think the change in attitude is because now we live in a society with less strict class divisions (especially since the civil rights era) and greater potential for upward mobility, not to mention a cultural value placed on attaining that upward mobility. To want to be "better" than you are, well that's just ambition, if maybe of a misguided sort. To want to be worse? Well, that throws the whole system into question! Reply "why is this is the one that terrifies people?" I think unfortunately a lot of the fearmongering and hysteria arises from a group of people who believe that being gay sends a person straight to hell. So, the idea of a child exploring with gender identity to these people really means the child is exploring with going to hell. And of course what naturally follows then is that woe be the parent who enables the child to explore gender identity (aka, going to hell) and better for them to have a millstone tied around their necks and thrown in the ocean, cue other judgmental phrases, etc. Whether it's nature or nurture, for them, a parent enabling the behavior they view as damning = parent be damned. Obviously this is only an answer that covers one particular group of people, but they're a mighty big group that has a lot of sway in the cultural conversation. 8( Reply Yeah, I guess when I put myself into that mindframe (you're encouraging your child in ways that result in them suffering), I can almost wrap my brain around it. Strongly disagree with the assessment, but at least the general idea makes sense. Empathy: it's a weird thing! Reply I think it's really important to try to understand the thought processes of people we disagree with. It's easier to combat detrimental views when we see the bigger picture and the picture that the other party is seeing. Reply I 100% agree with this. Reply Ariel, that's exactly the type of conversation I have with my Mom. She will say "I don't judge gays, I just think they'll be terribly sad their whole life." Ha! The problem is she's never been open-minded enough to have LGBT friends and witness fulfilling LGBT relationships. It's a f*cking vicious circle. Reply I would be all over painting my sons toenails if they weren't in his MOUTH most of the time. Reply It is SO funny that this was posted today. Just last night, my beau and I were talking about his upraising, and we always joke that he is living proof that children are BORN gay/lesbian/bi-sexual/transgender, and aren't raised to be. His words: "You do realize that my upbringing should've resulted in me being gay, right? I started dance lessons at the age of three, and continued for 12 years. I was not allowed to play contact sports. My parents both do theatre. I was not allowed to listen to rock music when I was a kid, I had to listen to things like John Denver or Julie Andrews. I didn't know how to fix a car, but I knew how to apply make-up." I love him so much. <3 I wouldn't have him any other way. Reply Your bf sounds awesome! Does he wear makeup every day? My sister's FH has skin problems and wears foundation to even out his skin tone. He used to get teased all the time by his buds until some hot girl at a bar (my sis) complimented him on it. That shut them up quick. How come his parents banned sports? I think that's wrong to limit your kid if it's what they really want to do. Reply Oh, no, he doesn't wear makeup on a day to day basis. He was raised doing theatre, and there's nothing sexier than a guy that can help you with your stage makeup! That said, stage makeup also makes you look like a clown up close, but he somehow pulls it off marvelously. *;) As for the sports, that actually had nothing to do with his parents hating sports. My boyfriend was diagnosed with type B hemophilia when he was 5 or 6, and his mother kept him from playing contact sports as a safety precaution. Reply Me and my fiance get bombarded with the "You have to cut your son's hair now" comments. My son's hair is a little longer than the boy in the pictures. It's beautiful, and until he complains about it I'll keep it long. After that it's his choice. What I find most peculiar is how most people seem to have no problem thinking that he's a girl in boy clothes, but god forbid I tell them that 'she' is a he. It's like their heads just exploded. Reply We just cut my son's hair, and everyone is happy with his "little boy cut". Gosh, I only cut it because he's a sweaty, stinky little boy and he always gets his green beans smeared in it, not because I wanted him to look more masculine. If I had left it long, does that make it a "little girl cut"? Reply Ha, that's why I finally cut my little boy's beautiful curls too – and I got the same reaction from some people. It was cut it or hold him down and comb it every day, and neither of us wanted to do that. Reply That's why my girl decided to cut her hair as well. 🙂 Reply Same here. My son had *beautiful* hair, longer than mine has been in probably 10yrs. But he's autistic and just couldn't handle the maintenance that long curly hair requires. Reply My 13 year old has, until recently, always had long hair. And I'm talking about long enough to sit on….he was frequently mistaken for a girl, but even as he got older never asked to cut it for that reason. He has asked to have it cut twice – both times he donated it to make wigs for children and then proceeded to grow it back in again. I am so proud of him! The only other haircut he got was when he was on vacation with my in-laws. They brought him home and we were horrified to see our beautiful boy sporting a crewcut!!!! He was quite upset and we didn't leave him alone with them for many years. Funnily, he new "short" hair is longer than the boy's in the photo… Once he was at a party and another boy was harassing him, telling my son that he wasn't a boy because his hair was long. I assured the kid that he was all-boy, but he still insisted that we were wrong. So I threatened to SHOW him the proof….I don't know where he went to hide for the rest of the party… Reply People are so weird about guys with long hair. My husband used to get a fair number of "what are you, some kinda sissy?" -type comments on a fairly regular basis when he had his long hair, and I would always be thinking, "He's a 200-pound, menthol-smoking farmboy in a leather jacket and Army boots! Isn't that masculine *enough*?" Reply I say do what you like, but the irony here over the controversy is that until the second half of the 20th century, Pink was a masculine color and boys wore dresses until 6 or 7. Do those Fox pundits think their grandpas were gay, not that it's bad if they were, but old fashioned ideals are actually usually modern mis-interpretations of the past. It'd be nice if people understood that there is no reason for the controversy. maybe the boy is an old soul or a reincarnated one. Ooops did I just stir up controversy again? Reply I saw a picture of my father when he was a baby in the thirties and he had on an adorable little frilly gown like outfit with a little bonnet. Nowadays if you dressed your boy like that people would be in such an uproar. He grew up to be one of the most honorable men that I have ever known and fathered seven children. What your children dress in or what colors they like have no bearing on the person they will become. However, making them feel ashamed for being who they are certainly will. Reply I felt awful the one time I mistook a very long haired boy (past the shoulders) wearing gender neutral clothes as a girl and asked the mom how old her daughter was. When she said "he's a boy and he's 3," I seriously wanted to die. I dress my daughter in a lot of hand-me-downs, which are, unfortunately, rather pink. Still, I get asked if she is a boy or girl. (heh?) But I guess it's good that people don't assume? Ever since then I have been really careful about kids that are ambiguous with referring to them in a neutral way (your child, etc) until I receive an identifier from the mom! And while I probably would rather paint a boy-child's fingers or toes a different color other than day-glo pink (day-glo yellow for example) I wouldn't have a problem with the painting per se. Reply This is why when we're at the park, I never say "Do you see the other little boy?" I just say "Do you see the other kid?" My brother used to get mistaken for a girl because he was growing out his hair to have a ponytail like our (much older) cousins – it made him really mad. Reply My son grew his hair out when his sister was born (mostly because he hated getting his hair cut and then decided he'd donate it for cancer when it was long enough) and while he totally dressed and acted like a boy he got called a girl a lot while his mostly hairless sister was mistaken for a boy. Reply This happened to me at the gym once — little boy had on the most darling grey-and-pink striped leg-warmers and had longish hair, and I wasn't sure and just went for it — my son had knocked him down trying to bear hug him, so I had to address the mom, "Sorry, that was our bad; he knocked her down trying to huge." — and was wrong. The mom looked mildly put out, and I understand her frustration, but it didn't exactly make me feel much more stellar. Reply People mistake my 2 year old boy for a girl all the time because I put him in bright colors and I suppose his hair is a bit longish. But you know what? It doesn't bother me one bit. Who cares if someone uses the wrong pronoun for a baby or toddler? The kids don't know the difference. It's the parents who get ruffled because it implies that something is wrong with their kid's gender expression. I can understand why the mistaken party might feel uncomfortable but the more you trip over yourself apologizing, the more you're reifying the notion that a baby's gender expression should be clearly demarcated. Reply Very good point! Reply I think its fine to paint your sons toenails. Are they going to have a fit if they see a little girl in a football jersey saying you are going to make her gay. Everyone (including children) like different things. We need to stop labeling children and let them be children. How long have little boys dressed up in there moms shoes and put on there make-up. They do as they see but it doesn't "make" them gay or transgendered. It helps them explore there imagination and be more open minded. Reply I have to hope these kinds of "exposes" are the dying throes of an outdated mode of thought. So many men I know think nothing of wearing nail polish. It's already become passe to them because it's MEANINGLESS. Reply Wow, Fox News is officially opposed to mothers playing with their children. Watch out, apple pie! You're the next target. Reply Along with the previous post about the "being gay means going to hell" issue for a group of people, I think another issue arises with those who have very conservative beliefs about gender roles and a man and woman's "purpose." For many people in my conservative family (of which I get pegged as the crazy liberal all the time), the real "issue" with letting a boy wear pink, paint toenails, etc. is that means the boy gets his "true gender identity" confused which means he will never use his penis for its true destiny and purpose – to procreate. According to the beliefs certain people I have talked to put forward, this gender confusion means that, somehow, that little boy will never grow up, get married, and continue on the species which (for them) is our only reason for existing. In their eyes, the clear outlines of "boy things" and "girl things" are a guarantee that boys and girls will match up and make more babies. I don't agree with it at all but whenever I ask my more conservative families why they have such issues with breaking gender stereotypes, this is the reason they give me. Reply I have made a habit of giving both of my boys "pedicures" whenever they asked. I didnt force it on them, but if they wanted toenails painted too – no problem! Reply My son (2) loves to climb up into my lap when I clip my nails. He LOVES for me to trim his finger nails and toe nails. He would probably want painted nails too if I ever painted mine. He loves pink and orange. And one of his favorite cartoons is Angelina Ballerina. I mentioned Angelina Ballerina as a possible character on his birthday cake and thought some of my family members were going to freak…sorry but the ballet mouse will be there and they just have to deal. My husband and I are not worried about his future sexual orientation – and actually my husband said it would be cute to see him dance in ballet. Although I will admit that we did steer him to the more masculine of the girl colored Halloween pumpkins my son liked, simply because we didn't want to deal with the opinions of others if he carried a "girl" pumpkin. And we loved that he picked out the Cars Easter basket only because it will serve as a nice container for all the cars in my living room. Reply "GIRL PUMPKIN"! Ha. The whole concept of a gendered pumpkin just made my morning. Related: SEXY PUMPKIN! Reply My husband was raised in Scotland and I am so thankful that he wasn't exposed to the gender stereotypes here in the US. His favorite color is pink (mine is blue) and I have painted his toenails pink before. His masculinity is very secure- he also plays rugby, cricket, football (aka 'soccer') and started the worlds longest canoe/kayak race with his father. (Yukon1000) The ideal that pink nails makes him less masculine is absurd. I'll bet the news pundit would claim his kilt is somehow turning him gay too. OMG boy in a skirt! I don't like toxic nailpolish but am super excited about trying this natural, kid and pregnancy friendly polish! http://www.piggypaint.com/ Reply Q: What does a Scotsman wear under his kilt? A: Lipstick. One of my daughters favourite sayings is that "a man in a kilt is a man and a half" and I'll not say she's wrong. 😉 I was born in England, and even after we emigrated to the US when I was a child, I wasn't really raised in the American mainstream. As such, I often feel I'm missing some of the finer points of the culture around me, even after living here for 30 years – still, I find it hard to accept that Fox 'news' speaks for the majority of Americans. Maybe I'm just in denial? I hope not. Reply This may be naivete on my part, but… I agree that many people observe gender stereotypes because they think that defying them will somehow turn their child gay, and that gay = bad. I do think, though, that for some people their reluctance to break these "gender rules" stems from a place of genuine (if misguided) fear and concern for their child's well-being and happiness. As a parent, I know that I will love my son no matter who he chooses to love, how he chooses to identify, and what he chooses to wear. I also know, though, that some paths are easier and less fraught with meanness than others, and I can't help secretly hoping that he has it easy – that he won't have to fight all the time to be recognized as equal and worthwhile. Today, that means being a "typical straight male". I think many parents are afraid to encourage behavior in their children that they know will invite ridicule – even if they themselves totally support the behavior. Reply I totally understand where you're coming from- I have thought many times about the reality that choosing any path off the norm can make life more difficult, because my lesbian partner and I are raising our awesome daughter in a rural, conservative area. I have sometimes thought to myself that since she already sticks out as different, it would be easier for her if she grew up to be a stereotypically "normal" girl here- the cheerleading, the heteronormative behaviors, the pink. Thankfully, as soon as that thought comes it is banished with this one: an easier life is not a better one, and the only job I have as a parent is to encourage my daughter to be exactly as she feels she should. Reply My two year old sits on the counter and 'applies' make-up and deoderant after he brushes his teeth with me in the morning. He also holds his toes out for me to paint when I'm doing mine (I don't paint his, simply because he wants to touch the paint afterwards – he makes grabs for mine constantly!). I don't see what the big deal is. I'm a single mother and what he sees me doing is what he wants to do as well. Children learn from bonding and immiation. Also, anyone else notice all of the 'OHMYGOD' articles against this are written by men? Methinks some boys have a problem with being comfortable with their own sexuality! Reply Wow, this is weirdly timely for us! (And I hadn't seen the media debate on it at all.) We went to a wedding this weekend and I bought bright blue nail polish to wear on my toes (b/c I wanted to wear sandals and my toe nails are funky… let's just leave it there, shall we?). Anyway, my son asked for me to paint his toes, so I did. The only bad part to it was that after I'd painted one of his fingernails (again, he asked) he freaked out b/c of the sensory feel (he's on the spectrum) and then wanted all the polish off… but I hadn't bought nail polish remover. Ooops. (We talked him through the meltdown. A few times. That's what we do.) Autism makes parenting clear to me: it's all about the kid and what the kid likes/ wants/ needs. Reply I wish I could agree with this comment a million times. My daughter is on the spectrum as well, and I've learned it's best to just go with the flow. Reply "neither gender is motivated to protect the nation by marching into combat against other men and risking their lives" This quote from the Fox article nearly made my head explode. What about all of the women serving their country right now? The idea that inherently only "masculine" men can serve their country by fighting other "masculine" men makes me sick. What a slap in the face to all of the wonderful women serving, not to mention the gay men who also serve. Reply Agreed! As you say, what about all of the homosexual men and women who have finally been liberated by DADT so that they can choose to serve in the armed forces?! Reply Nevermind the fact that there are plenty of people who chose to serve while closeted and risked discharge if outed . . . Reply I know someone who this applies to. It's a shame that he can't be himself. Reply I wouldn't call you a media cynic, I'd call you media savvy. Your description is right-on. Reply First, this is one of those times where I reaffirm my commitment against cable TV… Second, yeah, I think it is two-fold 1. Letting boys explore something girly makes them weak! 2. What if they're not infused with a healthy distaste for/discomfort with homosexuality? Obviously these two things would crumble the moral fabric of our nation, and so deserve constant national discourse. (yes, sarcasm.) Reply This is so interesting because for years I've had this one issue stuck in my head. Years ago when my little cousins were toddlers (a boy and a girl), my mom (their aunt) stayed at home to watch them. It was a very cool thing for her to do and she treated them as well as she treated her own children. One day my little girl cousin wanted to have her nails painted and so my mom started painting them. Then my little boy cousin came up to her and asked if he could have his nails painted too. In a moment of panic, my mom said no, not because she was trying to be mean or sexist, but because she knew how small-minded my uncle (their father) could be. So to not start a family war, she told my boy cousin that nail polish is only for girls. By the end of the day my boy cousin was running around saying, "Eww, nail polish is for girls." It was so fascinating to me that because he was told it was for girls, and because he couldn't partake in the fun, he rejected it. I felt bad for him at the time and always remembered the story so that one day if I ever had a boy I would remember to let him in on the fun and paint his darn nails whatever color he wanted. Because to kids it's just paint, and paint is fun. Reply Hehehe! I'll have to remember to tell my husband when he gets home that he has unwittingly changed his sexuality and gender-identity by willingly wearing sparkly pink nailpolish! Our eldest daughter paints his nails when they're playing dress-ups and no one has ever said anything to him about it, even when he wears it to work as a mechanic. Reply love this! my husband is a mechanic as well, and I can't wait till my daughter gets to him because I know he'll always play along! Reply One of my nephews loves to have his toenails painted but he also loves sports, building and other typical "boy" activities. The other nephew loves pink, ponies and purses (almost 4) but he's extremely rough and tumble like any stereotypical boy. Boo to trying to box a child into anything, and yay to realizing humans just like stuff, regardless of gender. Reply The funny thing is it is his toe nails. If it wasn't in a picture 99.99% of the world would never know if his nails were painted or not because he'd have shoes on. But now that they know they have to all have an opinion. Reply I saw this article and the uproar surrounding it on my MSN e-mail ticker this morning. I was going to reblog it here because I know a lot of you feel the WTF feeling when it comes to this gender bending leads to gayness nonsense, but you beat me to it! Reply As a side note–I love that kid's hair and totally plan on taking this picture to my hair stylist when it's time for my son's first cut. Maybe we'll make it a mommy and me spa day even! 🙂 Reply I know I've been worried sick about my son's Species Identification since he put on that outrageous pair of Easter bunny ears. Reply LOL, that cracked me up! Reply HA!!! Reply It's a great ad, and it's so sad that it's being blown up as some kind of societal threat. Psh. I've been a through and through tomboy for most of my life, occasionally donning a dress here and there, but at 5'10" I find that guys shirts fit better and are often way cooler! Men's hoodies, sweaters, skate shoes- love! I was mistaken for a boy a couple of times as a pre-teen, but I was never deterred to dress as I felt. At least this media sh*tstorm will open up some dialogue about gender normative behaviour, like here! Boys with pink nails, no fear. Reply Please, if painting toenails will 'turn' a boy gay somehow, I should a stereotypical raging butch lesbian with a vendetta against all men because my favorite hobby was playing ninja with a friend of mine and beating each other up with the stave's my dad made for Boy Scout walking sticks. And climbing trees, and playing with matchbox mini cars. Does the fact that I lived with only brothers count for me liking them because they were about the only toys/hobbies in the house? Or that my friend was a female who also lived with brothers, so we thought everyone tried to hit each other with sticks (lightly) for fun? Noooo….That would be logical. Well, I hope this dies down soon. Let kids like what they like. It's good for them to explore their own interests. Reply Interestingly, I learnt the other day in a developmental psychology lecture that kids that engage in both stereotypically male and female behaviours or tend toward androgyny have better mental health in the long run! Reply Why is *childhood* exploration of gender identify so terrifying? Why, because ALL exploration of gender identify is terrifying. For now. I have faith things will change. Someday we'll read that Fox pundit and everybody will both cringe and laugh — just like we do when we read articles from the 1940s about the "sin" of interracial marriage. Reply My son regularly had his nails painted, all of our friends kids were girls and so he joined in on lots of so called female activities. I could care less if he is gay or straight, I know that the nail polish and dolls had nothing to do with it. All I hope is to raise an open, critically thinking, unbigoted, caring human being, who he ends up forming relationships with is not up to my influence and I'm glad it's not. Reply Ditto to this: "All I hope is to raise an open, critically thinking, unbigoted, caring human being, who he ends up forming relationships with is not up to my influence and I'm glad it's not." Reply I think we should get every man, woman and child who is secure in their gender identity, to paint their toenails bright pink! Reply Gender exploration doesn't damage children. Society ostrocizing (spell check) and making them feel different in a negative way damages them. So it's on the heads of non supporters. Reply This makes me sad, because the photo is such a beautiful moment of joy between parent and child. I didn't see the nail polish at first, just the pure delight on their faces. I'm willing to bet that when this little boy grows up, what he remembers isn't the nail polish, it's the fun time with his mom. Oh, and ruining America. :b Reply My son plays football…and loves running around the house in my four-inch platform heels. It is what it is. Reply The moment I realized that one day I was going to have children, and when I did it was going to be very important to break gender-stereotypes for them was when I was taking a child care class in high school. Through high school I had the really short cut hair (Agyness Dehn short – sorry if I spelled her name wrong). One day I had to go in and help out with the older preschoolers (4-5ish years old) and one came up to me and was like, "are you a BOY or a GIRL?!!" I told her that I was in fact a girl and these little kids actually started arguing amongst each other that there was no way that I was a girl with that short of hair, that girls have long hair and boys get THEIR hair cut off. I just kinda stood there wondering if this was seriously a conversation taking place between 4-year-olds. That said, I will be damned if my daughter ever says something like that to anyone else. It simply isn't going to happen lol. Reply I understand why this incident was troubling to you. However, I think that children, in their effort to make sense of the world, have natural tendency to see things in black and white that they lose as they grow older. You'll notice that when children learn to speak, they try to apply standard grammatical rules to every situation, even though English is full of exceptions. Kids like rules and routines and dislike ambiguity because the world is big and confusing and they want to know where they stand. I think it's great to teach your child not to be so rigid about gender, but I think it's important to understand that some of that rigidity is developmental rather than environmental. Reply Very true. In addition, young children tend to focus on obvious external cues such as hairstyles or clothes to determine gender since they simply haven't developed the ability to observe nuances such as body type. As you said, kids crave order, so they categorize everything… often in ways that make little sense to adults. Reply I agree with Lex and Muse, I remember learning in my child development class that pre-school aged kids go through a phase when they are figuring out gender where they can only understand it in very strict terms. My teacher gave the example that her niece started crying and got very upset when she jokingly told her that her dad could wear a dress if he wanted to. I think the little ones who were arguing about your hair were just handling the situation in the natural way their little brains would allow. Reply My boys' favorite polish color use to be pink and glitter! That's changed to sliver and green now. Reply Man, people are such suckers for artificial social constructs. The whole boys-shouldn't-wear-pink nonsense didn't really start until almost the mid-twentieth century (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/When-Did-Girls-Start-Wearing-Pink.html#)! It just as easily could be the other way around (blue for girls, pink for boys), and it WAS for a long time. I honestly can't believe the outrage that such a simple, sweet ad has sparked. Critical thinking skills are a rarity, huh? Reply I'm 22 and my little brother is 20 and i remember when were we're little he played with my barbies and i played with his tonka trucks!! Sorry but he has NO PROBLEM with the ladies!!! Reply The way those articles work is by misdirecting from the actual message: Being Gay Is Undesirable and Bad. As soon as you get into a tizzy about whether or not toenail painting affects your sexuality, you've bought into their story and supported their argument implicitly. When you were a kid did you ever have a friend play the trick on you where they ask something outrageous like, "Have you finally stopped masturbating to pictures of your parents?" The answer is beside the point because they just want to get you to agree with their story to your detriment. It's sort of like that, because engaging in any answer supports their narrative. The only way to win is not to play. Reply So.. according to Dr. Ablow, I should be worried that Giana is going to turn into a lesbian because she likes to wear her Papa's boots? HECK NO! Just because a child does something that is outside of the "normal" gender trappings doesn't mean they're going to need therapy or grow up to be gay. Is that like saying that little boys shouldn't learn to do housework or to cook or play with baby dolls? And then should little girls NOT play with cars or splash in the mud or learn to camp, hike, hunt and fish and fix cars? That's like saying we should all go back to the Stepford 50's and keep all women indoors, raising children and keeping the household together. Reply While I have nothing more to add to this discussion (I whole-heartedly agree that this story is ridiculous, and has been blown out of proportion by the media)…I just thought I'd let everyone know that Jon Stewart and his writers have caught wind of this and on his April 13th show…did a huge segment on it. Appropriately named, "Toepocalypse 2011". Reply Hahah. "Toemageddon 2011 – This Little Piggy Went to Hell" What a good laugh!!! Hahaha! I love Jon Stewart. <3 Reply Right. Toemageddon! Oh well, Toepocalypse, Toemageddon…those terms are so interchangeble in the media. Reply Anyone else notice that as Dr. A Blow is wearing a SHINY PINK NECK TIE as he's sitting there ranting about this "attack on masculinity" ?????? Reply My son wanted red toenail polish on his two big toes last summer, so I obliged. We went camping about a week after I painted them. Some kids on the playground laughed at him and made him cry. Then I watched their mom spank them into submission. The whole event was sad and traumatizing for me on so many levels. Reply I KNEW there would be an AWESOME discussion about this here! I freaking LOVE you girls! As a mother to 3 boys. I can't tell you how many times my boys have done their makeup with me, put cute and curly little clips in their hair and painted their toe nails. My 10 year old even proudly painted his finger nails JUST last week, just to show that he could do a better job of painting with his left hand than me. LOL! And while painting his nails, we chatted about the cute girl that lives up the street… I'm actually kind of glad that this story broke. Bring some recognition to issues that REALLY effect parents today. Did you see that John Stewart even covered this story on the Daily Show? LOVED his take on it! Reply s a kid I was hunting, fishing, out fixing the car with dad,getting muddy building things and I hated pink only wore blue no skirts dresses nothing pretty. I now wear heels dresses make up, I like sparkly things and girly things but I am way more handy then my partner (hes a nerd) and could probably survive in the wild for at least 2 weeks. Reply My little boys all wanted their toenails painted at some point. One time one of them got into my nail polish with out my knowing it–until he showed me the mess! Reply I have a 13 year old cousin who is a male and loves bright colors (pink, neons, etc). he also enjoys singing and acting. Yet he also enjoys soccer, baseball, and playing Xbox. He is sincere in what he loves and does not let the typical gender roles stop him. I love him for his confidence. If I ever have a son and he wants me to paint his toenails, dress up like a girl for Halloween, etc…I will. Because I want my child to be happy, confident, and have fun no matter what! BTW I like watching baseball and football more than my brother or husband.. my hubby and I are happily married and expecting our first child in May. I think this whole thing is ridiculous. Reply All I can say is that my husband loves pink and purple WAY more than I do, and loves getting pedicures and manicures and massages (he actually taught ME how to take better care of my nails when we started dating, lol)… Yet somehow he manages to still be a whisky drinking, poker playing, hatchet weilding manly man and has even successfully impregnated me, I'm pretty sure liking pink and having nice toenails does not have a negative affect on a man's ability to procreate 😉 Reply My son sees me painting my nails and says; "Momma, baby try!" So, me being a obliging mommy my sons nails can range from being purple to silver! More power to our little ones being individuals and wanting to explore all kinds of expression! Reply I love it! By 3 yrs of age, having been blessed with beautiful red hair, which grew darker later, my gender identity was cemented. My father let it grow long—my baby pictures show a pretty baby "girl". I am now happily female and am glad to see the focus on gender so that it can cease to be a weapon of male chauvinists! At age 20, after 2 years in the USAF, my "true" gender identity surfaced. Having no knowledge of any possibility of gender transition, I repressed it..only to lead a life of acute unhappiness. No longer! Reply Join the conversation Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Subscribe me to your mailing list No-drama comment policy Part of what makes the Offbeat Empire different is our commitment to civil, constructive commenting. Make sure you're familiar with our no-drama comment policy.