How do you make bedtime work — for everyone? #I've got a parenting question!#babies#sleep June 18 2010 | Offbeat Editors offbeatbride Offbeat Home & Life runs these advice questions as an opportunity for our readers to share personal experiences and anecdotes. Readers are responsible for doing their own research before following any advice given here... or anywhere else on the web, for that matter. Sleeping babies are sweet, but how do you get them to sleep in the first place? Photo by Hsoliphoto. Reader Meg (for those of you on Offbeat Tribe, you can find her here) shot us a question about a certain time of the night that can be quite a challenge for parents–new and experienced alike–THE BEDTIME ROUTINE. (DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN) In all seriousness, I am excited to address THE BEDTIME ROUTINE (I'll stop doing that now) because getting Jasper to go to sleep has been an epic experience. I don't want to call it a battle because that implies that it's been something negative, and I wouldn't go that far. The Question Specifically, Meg asked: "I was wondering if you would consider tackling one of the most (in my opinion) fraght with judgement and conflict mommy topics out there…the dreaded bedtime. As someone stuggling with the topic (and the actual deed) I would love to see this handeled in a manner outside of the catty birth board dichotamy that is all I have seen so far in my extensive searching of the interwebs." Anyone who has tried to get a resistant sleepy child to go to sleep knows that there's not one cut-and-dry approach to take. There are a few dominant models for what to do once your child is asleep (i.e. CIO vs. attachment parenting), but that's not what we're talking about today–we're talking about what takes place BEFORE you get into bed. Potential Answers In a nutshell, here's the experience my answer is based on: we co-sleep, breastfed around-the-clock until two weeks ago (meaning Jazz nursed all night LONG), and have a child who really digs going to sleep while nursing and/or rocking. I have made up different songs to sing him to bed (it helps when your child has six names, because you can sing them all as a nursery rhyme), all of which will work, depending on his mood. Also, unlike some of you INSANELY LUCKY PARENTS with wonder-babies who fall asleep as soon as someone says car, Jasper didn't fall asleep in any kind of vehicle until he was ten months old. Related Post Breastfeeding moms rejoice: drinking coffee isn't going to mess up your baby's sleep I remember spending HOURS Googling many variations of "If I drink coffee will my breastfed baby be hopped up on caffeinie?" when my son was... Read more Having said that, here are some tips and tricks: If you have a rocking chair, ROCK. Jasper is a rocking addict now, but the chair was the only thing (besides breastfeeding) that would work for the first ten months of his life. If you sing…sing, SIIIIIIING (OMG, Travis. Sorry, guys). For real, though: songs are integral to a good night's sleep for Jazz. We usually rotate out four or five smash hits, all of which have his name in there somewhere–he's got six names total, so it makes for some musical sweetness. Once your baby outgrows the rocking chair (J still rocks somewhat comfortably, but the day is coming), move out of it. I now spend a good deal of time vertical performing what I call the mama-rock. Basically, I hold him while standing, and bend my knees, alternating from side to side. This is exhausting, but, on the flip side, gives you killer calves and thighs if you do it regularly enough. Since we've stopped nursing, this is actually the only way Jasper goes to sleep during the day. If your baby will respond to your partner, OMG, bring them in. Jasper would NOT let Sean put him to sleep for the longest time–something about this was mama-only-territory. Recently, I've started shooting more weddings late into the night, so Sean has been in charge of bedtime. Out of necessity, he has developed his own routines–we discovered that if Sean tried to do what works between Jasper and I it just pissed Jasper off. Now, they do what I call the dad-sway. It's not always as painless (sometimes Jasper protests with tears) as the mama-rock, but it accomplishes the same means in more or less the same amount of time. If all else fails, give the car a try. It didn't work for us until the last month or so, but now we can take Jasper for a drive if he's still up around 9:30 or 10pm, and sleep ensues. So, Mamas! What do are your bedtime routines? What works for you? Note from Ariel: We're not interested in getting into the "Cry it out" debate here. We want to hear what works for YOU — not why you think what works for other people isn't a good idea. Reporter Name * Reporter Email * Original text Enter the original text here. Edited text* Enter your suggested copyedit here. Notes You can add a note for the editor here. * Required information. Fix Typo PREVIOUS Deposit a Gift offers a unique way to register for baby gifts NEXT A Dora the Explorer-loving dad, and a Superman to boot! Show/Hide comments [ 62 ] Our bedtime routine goes like this: 1. Bathtime! Depending on Tavi's mood, sometimes it's as long as 20-30 minutes 2. Diaper, onesie, and sleepsack on! 3. Nursing/mama-baby time in the nursery closet 4. Time for bed! I lay Tavi down in his crib — usually drowsy, almost never completely asleep. We've been blessed by a guy who *usually* falls to sleep within 5-10 minutes of this routine. Reply Were you always able to lay him down like that? We are trying to figure out when we should start trying to transition Joaquin… right now he still wails as soon as he hits the mattress if he isn't already asleep! Reply We started trying to lay him down in a crib (instead of in bed with us) around 3 months. There was about a week of transition, where we'd sit by the crib and pet his head and talk to him and reassure him as he fell asleep, and then he got used to it. I'd say we still have COMPLETE FAIL about 20% of the time, where he gets laid down and is just like OH HELL NO. But for the most part, we've been very very lucky with him being a pretty easy-to-sleeper. Reply Ah, love this post but mostly because that is EXACTLY how my bub goes to sleep. Lots of rocking, lots of nursing, lots of cuddling. We have our routine though, much like Tavi's but we are still in the co-sleeping, nursing all night long groove. He'll start off in his crib for a spell at night and he naps in his crib all the time but nighttime is with mama, right in my armpit. 🙂 I know it doesn't last forever so as long as I can be relatively rested, I don't mind a bit (and I miss him when he's in the other room!) Reply Our bedtime routine is: 1. Bath/lotion/jammies 2. Turn on the sound machine 3. Drink a warm bottle 4. Walk in a circle around her room while she plays with my hair till her eyes start to droop (usually only like 5 minutes) 5. Rock her in the rocking chair till she is completely out 6. Place her in her crib and sneak out While this routine works like a charm, the drawback is that I have a 15 month who doesn't sleep through the night yet and needs to do 3-6 on the above list to get back to sleep. But, that is a different topic for another day. Reply I don't have a little one, but a good friend of mine's routine is (keep in mind, she now has an 18-month-old, but she's been doing it since he was about 6 months old): 1. Bathtime – anywhere from 5 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on everyone's mood. 2. Put on diaper and pajamas. 3. Select a video or DVD (she's pretty mainstream, so the choices are usually Cars, Toy Story, or some other Disney/Pixar flick). 4. Give the G-Unit a bottle of milk (maybe 4 ounces or so) Optional: Cuddle up on the couch (he's never been much of a cuddler – he's happiest sprawled out on the couch AWAY from you) 6. Ten to 15 minutes of movie. 7. In the bed with the white noise machine on. The G-Unit (his name is Garrett) is usually asleep within 10 minutes after this routine. Reply We really need to start establishing a routine! One thing that has been a lifesaver with 3 mo old Maya is swaddling or wearing her in a wrap and bouncing her on our stability/exercise ball. Reply Wow, my step-mom did this with my half sister and it was AWESOME until Erin was 3 years old and mom started having serious back problems. Reply Chamomile worked awesome when Bell had colic. Not during the day so much, but a nice bath with some lavender bubbles or salt and a touch of chamomile in a bottle or syringe helped heaps. It was very hard to console her most of the time. I would put her to bed before me, then crawl in when it was safe. She's too big now, and I miss sleeping with my baby. 🙁 Reply Our 9-month-old fights sleep every night, right up to the moment that he actually falls asleep. We've established a pretty successful routine, though. (We call it a "routine"; he probably thinks of it more as a "trick.") 1. Bath. Wolfie LOVES the water, so baths last, at least, twenty minutes. He is quite pleasant the entire time, even getting out of the bath. Watching the water drain = awesome and fascinating. 2. New dipe & pajamas. This is where it starts to get tricky. He realizes that pajamas lead to bedtime, so distraction is the key to making it through Step #2 with few tears. 3. Bedtime bottle and books. Wolfie takes his bottle in bed while we read and/or sing to him. If he doesn't start to drop after four books and the usual 3-song repertoire, we tell him about our day to the minutest detail. That usually does the trick. (We have very boring workdays, according to most babies.) But if it doesn't do the trick and he's still rolling around in bed, throwing his limbs around (and that boy has a mean accidental punch-in-the-eye), we just hold him close and keep talking for as long as it takes. The whole routine, once we get him into bed, can last anywhere from ten to forty-five minutes. We've learned that patience is really important to everyone feeling relaxed, so we just savor it. Reply When my almost-two-year-old was an infant, we didn't have much of a routine. I let her set her own bedtime, according to her rhythms and it usually worked out to be about the same every night. But we always had the following when it was time to go to bed: 1. sleep sheep on. 2. innocence mission's stay awake album playing over bedroom speakers. 3. swaddled (until she was 3 months and rebelled against it) 4. sleep positioner (until she outgrew it) I also put her down drowsy but awake. with our new 2 month old, she eats, gets swaddled and falls asleep in the swing until mama is ready to go bed, then i take her to bed with me. i do this because we all sleep in one room, and i can immediately tend to stella before her noises wake alice up. Reply 1. Bath 2. Massage 3. All of us sit down (mom, dad, and two little ones) and read a book. 4. Nursing 5. SIT ON YOGA BALL AND BOUNCE BABY TO SLEEP. This is the big step. Joaquin doesn't like rocking, only bouncing. He likes very soft singing or a constant "shhhh" sound. 6. Put down in crib 3-4 times before he actually stays asleep. If I am having a particularly frustrating and long time getting baby to sleep, I put on a movie for me. I usually do foreign films because I can read the words if he is crying or, as we call it, "complaining". The movie helps me focus on something other than the crying. Both of our kids have been tough to get to sleep and I totally get sleep envy when I see other mom's kids passed out in their carseats. I wish I could remember how we transitioned to a less intensive routine with our older boy, because by the time he was 9-10 months old, we were able to lay him down after his bedtime routine without the hour of bouncing. Funny how you forget really important things like that… Reply The movie for mom is a great idea, and one I definitely wouldn't have thought of. Reply I cant say this enough… get on a routine and stick with it – always, always! Ours looks like this… bath, put on lotion/pj's, brush teeth (now), stories, kisses and bed/lights out Our kids who are now 5 and 3 are so used to this routine that it takes them no time to go to sleep and we hardly ever hear complaints – its all that they really know I second this with naps… our 3 year old is so used to a nap schedule that even if we havent scheduled one (we are out and about or whatever), she will fall asleep wherever she is… 🙂 Reply Wondering about this. I'm childless right now, but I was a very colicky baby (screamed for 9 months straight, apparently), so my parents couldn't ever get me into a routine. I'm now 27 and have never been able to fall asleep quickly. Takes me about an hour no matter how strict my own routine is. A routine from the beginning would probably have been good. Sorry mom and dad!! Reply We follow the 4 B's of Bedtime: Bath Books Boobs Bed Simple, short and to the point. 1 agrees Reply Yep, same here, except our version is: Bath, Bottle, Book, Bed. (Sadly my boobs stopped producing at 5 mos). I'd say it works 90% of the time. We too put Raven down tired but awake, and she will cry for 1 to 3 minutes tops before she rolls over & goes to sleep. Reply over the last two months we've tried everything – the swing, nursing, patting, walking, swaddling, shushing, singing, bouncing on the yoga ball, reading, sitting in her vibrating chair, nursing again, patting again, swaddling again and every conceivable combination of those. when i sought advice from the interwebs i was told, "when you see your baby getting sleepy, put her down for a nap". put her down for a nap? what the hell does that mean? the realization that there are only two ingredients necessary for jude to sleep predictably has been a lifesaver – she needs to 1) suck 2) in the dark. we got a cheap pack-n-play from craigslist to go in our dungeon-like guestroom and, after spending an obscene amount of money on tiny plastic nipples, we've finally found a pacifier she will take. so, our routine for naps is: after about an hour of stimulating play 1. nurse in the day bed in the guestroom until her eyes are closed and she's breathing softly (15 minutes) 2. lay her in the pack-n-play 3. soothe with the pacifier if necessary the routine for bedtime is: 1. wait for the sun to set 2. nurse (she's a "cluster eater" so before bed especially she nurses non-stop) 3. bath or story/quiet play time (15 minutes) 4. final nurse in rocker in our bedroom until her eyes are closed and she's breathing softly (15-30 minutes depending on her mood) 4. lay her in her co-sleeper 5. soothe with pacifier if necessary with nap time and bedtime i usually have to return to the room 2 or 3 times over the first half hour to replace the pacifier or nurse for another few minutes to get her to go to sleep fully. she'll nap for 1-2 hours at a time. during the night she nurses between 1 and 2 and again between 4 and 5. Reply Could I ask what kind of pacifier worked for you? I nurse our baby to sleep at night, and walk her in the halls in her carriage for naps. In general, I'm fine with both, but we're starting to think it'd be lovely to transition her out of our bed… and a pacifier might help. But, thus far, she's rejected all we've tried. Thanks!! Reply I know you weren't asking me, but Born Free makes Tavi's binky of choice. Reply she finally took the Playtex Binky. we tried them all! funny that Ariel recommends the "Born Free" because i'm trying to transition her to those. Reply Thank you Ariel and Ryan, I'm gonna try both! Chep Reply We've always done bath, jammies/teeth/lotion, books, songs and then sleep (via bf'ing and rocking). My baby girl goes to sleep no problem but won't stay that way for more than 2 hours at a time (she's 1 now, which makes for some long nights), and my son (3) takes forever and needs lots of help to get to sleep, but sleeps like an angel. Go figure 🙂 Reply I'm wondering when parents started a bedtime routine. I have a two month old and we are still in the "do whatever you want" phase with him. Thanks. Reply We started at 6 months but honestly it didn't really take till around 9-10 months (in terms of bedtime around the same time at night and nap times). Reply I started the routine at about 4 months, and it stuck pretty quickly — I'd say within a week or two? — but I think this is in large part because Tavi is pretty mellow and easy. I've had friends who weren't able to really establish an effective routine until their son was a year. Reply We started just recently (4 mos) and I think it is already making a difference. It used to be a half hour or more of bouncing to get our baby to sleep, but now after his routine it only takes 10-15 min of bouncing him. Reply Thank you for asking that! My daughter is 6 weeks old and I usually let her nap wherever and then nurse her to sleep whenever I'm ready to go to bed (we co-sleep) but I wasn't sure when was a good age to start trying to get into a routine Reply we started at 6 weeks. we don't have a set time for naps either and the bedtime routine is flexible as far as when it starts – usually once it's dark outside and she starts giving cues that she's sleepy. Reply Like Ariel said, it depends on your child's temperament, although I find that most kids eventually find comfort in routines. My son started putting himself on his own schedule around 2 months, and only some times do we have to "cheat" it a bit by nursing just a smidge before his bath and last bottle. Reply I have a fourth trimester deadline. For the first three months, we do whatever Stella seems to want. When 4th tri is over, I'll start working on consistent bedtime/routine, and then when she graduates from the co-sleeper at 6 months (or whenever she starts to sit up!), I'll start to ease the association between nursing and bedtime, so that she'll be able to go to bed without having to nurse first. Who knows if it'll work this time?! It worked out that way with Alice. Reply Thank you for this topic!! It's really lovely to read what other people do in a supportive, no-judgement space. Reply never really had a routine set in place. but for the most part. for our 2yr old 1. bath time sometime after 6 2. play/movie 3. read a book 4. walk out of the room (just in the past few weeks we've been able to stop patting his back till he falls asleep…YEEESSS!) for our infant nurse till little man is OUT. lay him down. repeat. we co-sleep so i just roll over, pop out the boob, latch him on, then we both drift back to sleep… Reply A friend swears by chamomile. They have dissolving tabs at health food stores and she says it helped her kid settle down for bed time. He is 4 and has apparently always been hard to get to sleep. I haven't tried it yet… has anyone else? I am a little weary of giving anything to baby. I also heard you can drink chamomile tea before nighttime nursing and it is supposed to be calming to baby. Reply Hey! I used to drink chamomile tea sometimes before nursing at night, and Jasper would definitely be MUCH calmer. It also helped him sleep a little longer–instead of nursing every 2-3 hours, he'd sleep for a 4-6 hour stretch. Reply We started a routine around 3 months old when she started being really difficult about bedtime. We take a bath around 6:30 until she starts yawning (usually 20 minutes or so). Then diaper, shirt, sleep sack, bottle, snuggle and jiggle until asleep. Aspen hated rocking and went on nursing strike about the same time, hence the difficult to get to bed. Breastfeeding had been the key before then. Reply Miles has been a mellow and awesome baby, except for the sleep thing. If you put him down before he's totally asleep, he flips his shit. Put a blanket on him? Shit flip. Look at him wrong? You get the idea. We're still working on a good routine. Reply Aria is the same way about the blanket. In the dead of summer, I have to put winter jammies on her and turn the a/c up a little. Even the thinnest blanket makes her shoot awake for some reason. Reply i've been lucky since birth, aiden sleeps amazingly our night time routine is simple. aiden hangs out in our bed till he's sleepy then it's a bottle with water and a blanket and he's off to sleep see we used to do formula then it progressed to milk, but aiden has developed a small case of milk mouth because of it…. (also that he had 4 teeth by the end of his 3rd month alive) ANYWAY so we stay away from milk in bottles now and the only time a day he has a bottle is during nap or sleep he grew out of pacifiers at such a young age so we never really could use them :/ but that isn't such a bad thing Reply what is milk mouth? Reply Hour long routine, starting at 6pm: 1) Get ready for bathtime, making a big deal about getting a towel, washcloth, jammies, and the duckie bathtub ready to go. 2) Take bath. Get clean for about a minute, play with toys for about 10 minutes. 3) Go read stories. 3 of them. Usually at least one has some Jesus in it, but not always. Current fave is "I Love You, Stinkyface". 4) Get his room ready for sleepytime – turn on the nightlight, turn on the baby monitor, turn off the big light. 5) Go out into the living room and dance to a 6 song playlist by The Divers (local folksy group). Start out fast, end slow. 6) Bedtime bottle. That's going to be the kicker to get rid of in a couple months. 7) Lots of hugs and kisses from Dad, lots of hugs and kisses from Mom, tucked into bed. 8) Sometimes lots of crying and climbing up the side of the crib. We go put him back down every few minutes, and he eventually falls asleep. Reply This is why everyone should have at least TWO. (tongue in cheek) Because you learn that perhaps it reeeeeaallly isn't all about you and your strategies. Mine were truly two completely different sleepers despite my elaborate plans. The boy falls to sleep easily, by himself, happy as a clam. And…. sadly…. he always woke up happy as a clam many many times per night as a baby. Still at 5, probably 3x per week he will call for Mama for a reassurance at night. I pat him or quick cuddle, and go back to bed. The girl was always harder to get to sleep – highly stimulated, sometimes crying, babbling, wanting to nurse for a long time, us with the strategies…. the patting, not patting, tip toeing, praying for silence in the house. Once she was DOWN though, it was all good. She was 6 – 8 hours per night from a few weeks. She's still (at 9) my "hard to get to sleep sleeper" meaning she will call from the bedroom "Mom! I needa drink." "Mom! I forgot to tell you what happened today at school!" "Mom, I forgot to read you my poem!" "Mom!! You won't believe how RUDE Ezra was today!" Blah blah blah literally until drop-dead-threatening-consequence-time. But when she's down? She is freaking OUT. I mean OUT for 12 hours, and elephants could stampede through. My biggest learning about sleep: a huge part of it is developmental, and a huge part is temperamental. I wish I'd known that when I was endlessly searching for a way I could influence the process. My only other religion about sleep is stick to good habits – stick to a routine. Bedtime is bedtime – – I don't set my kids up for failure by dragging them all over and keeping them up. EIGHT IS BEDTIME, mama needs her sanity. This also helps when they are older. My personal belief is that about 80% of bad behavior in children is poor sleep, poor nutrition so I try to avoid it. Reply "and a huge part is temperamental." AMEN! I try to always qualify my talk about sleep with a post-script "…but Tavi's pretty easy." The sleep strategies I respect the most are the ones that acknowledge every child is different and what works for one child at one time, may not work for a different child — or even that same child at a different time! 🙂 I think a lot of raging sleep debates could be avoided if more people understood that. Reply Liam started sleeping through the night at 2 or 3 months, but we've tried to get him on the same routine since he was 3 weeks old, more for our sakes than his. Sometimes we will play a bit in the evening, or if he is really tired, we will let him nap lightly on us. Then he gets his bath, and gets to play for about 15 minutes or so. Then afterwards is tummy time to dry off his bum. Then his bottle. We used to have to watch really calm tv during this bottle (our favorite was Survivor Man or Nova documentaries), but now we can watch whatever. Then we put him to bed with his sound machine, and swaddle the heck out of him. Then we just leave him alone. It did take a few weeks of rocking and cuddling and singing and really just hanging out next to the crib for an hour before he got to where he would put himself to sleep. Sometimes he falls asleep in about 5 minutes, sometimes it takes almost an hour of him burbling to himself. Oh, and his thumb. His tasty, tasty thumb. Reply We started a routine-ish around 2 months. Lorelei is pretty great about going to sleep on her own. I think that's largely thanks to starting a routine early. It's not so much a time we're locked into. We try to watch when she seems to start getting tired, then she gets a bath using Johnson's bedtime wash with chamomile and lavender. Then she gets lotioned up with the same scented lotion and we put her in her pj's. She hates blankets on her legs so if it's hot, it's legless onesies, cold it's a footed jammie (funny enough, if she's in footed jammies, she doesn't mind a blanket). Then, while carrying her from the changer to the co-sleeper I sing her bedtime song. Usually, laying her down, pacifier, finishing the song and maybe a minute or two of belly rubs and nuzzles are all we need to do. She'll be awake and we close the bedroom door and she usually falls asleep within a few minutes. Sometimes she'll wake up if she pops the pacifier out too soon in sleep. Then it's a quick step in our room to put it back in and she's good. If she still seems wide awake I tend to sing a second song, maybe nurse her and I try to read a book… not a kid's book, my book out loud in a soothing whisper-voice. She's usually asleep by 8:30-9 pm and I find we all prefer it when she goes to sleep later because she wakes later (around 7:30 am which gives me time to get ready for work and a little time with her before leaving). It gives us all more quality time together in the evening as well. I actually discovered a new technique today at the Aquarium when she was tired but seeming to resist a nap that if I lay her down in my lap and put a blanket over her the way I do when nursing in public then she'll calm down quickly and fall asleep. I don't have to actually nurse her it's more to use the blanket to fool her into "night" mode. It worked this evening as well when I realized that the sun setting later in summer keeps our room from getting really dark at her bedtime. If it's naptime during the day, so far, just putting her in her crib with the lights off and turning on her Winnie the Pooh mobile usually does the trick… if she's even home, we don't spend much time in the house during the day. Reply Our routine is this for our 3 mos old. At around 9 or 10 we swaddle her, give her a bottle, and DH rocks her till she falls asleep. Then if she wakes up and cries again, we pick her up and rock again. I'd like to get to where we don't have to rock her, but I'm going to wait till she's older. Reply Our 8 mo's routine is pretty much: clean diaper and pjs with daddy, brush teeth and wash face with mummy, then bottle from either mummy or daddy and put in her crib. She usually falls asleep right away, but sometimes it takes a few minutes of patting her back. Reply I only have one little dude, so I can't really imagine how this would work with two, but… we have a flexible bedtime routine, but the most important part is having a quiet, low stimulation period. Baths can be good, but sometimes my fella gets too hyped up! We read books, listen to music, have a sippy cup of something and then cuddle to sleep (he has a full mattress on the floor of his room.) Once his eyes start to flutter I plan my escape. Honestly, the best part about our routine is that sometimes I fall asleep at his bedtime…and get a kick-bum 10 hours of sleep! Reply Our routine? We don't have one. Charlotte starts to get sleepy around half an hour after sundown, meaning she's up later now than a few months ago. She wants to nurse to sleep, so I kick back on the couch and nurse her. After a while, I put her in her bassinet (which is on the floor in the living room now), and then she goes to bed with us when wee go. She's never slept in her crib. Reply We didn't have a sleep schedule until about 2-3 months because of the horrible colic and reflux. Up until Delilah was on medication it was all we could do to survive. She had been swaddled since birth and it really worked wonders. She was sleeping through the night as soon as the medicine was started, and we never coslept because of the horror stories of all the parents I know who's kids slept with them until they were 5. Sleep routine was: 1.Eating an hour before bedtime 2. Quiet playtime, reading stories and singing songs for the last hour. 3.Swaddle nice and tight, heartbeat machine, and night light. 4. Laid down always awake, I also did let her cry it out early into this routine starting with small increments then stretching it out. Reply Well, 6 1/2 yrs ago, when my youngest was a baby. I would just feed him, change him, then put him in the crib between one of those foam 'back/side sleepers'. He usually liked it slightly on his side. Then, I turned on the CD player to some classical music and left the room. I tried having him in my room, but he has always tossed and turned and it woke me up every time. So, after the music, he might fuss for a minute or so, but not really cry and then fell asleep on his own. If he started actually crying, then I would stand next to him and rub his tummy. I remember it working most of the time, but it has been 6 yrs! Also, once he was holding his head up good, I let him sleep on his tummy during the day. He loved it. Now, he still tosses and turns. I can't even get close enough for a kiss without him failing and hitting me while sleeping. Reply As a nanny I had to come up with my own routine for the twin 3 year old boys I was watching, because I just wasn't Mom and couldn't master her routine. (BTW hers is dinner, bath, put to bed and CIO) The twins and I have modified this. (She is aware of our routine and will use it as well at times.) The boys and I have our dinner about 45 minutes earlier than their normal time and still have bath time, but they are the coolest little Star Wars nerds and with the promise of 20 minutes on the Wii with a timer on top of the TV playing Lego Star Wars those kids will do just about anything. Including finish their dinner and take a bath and go to bed quietly. I take the boys to their room and as twins we have our own little games that we get to play. Their beds are on opposite sides of the room and half the time I would put them to bed I would check on them to find them in the same bed giggling and playing so I began to go in there to prevent crossover. 🙂 RIght before bed every night we play secret telephone. Where the boys have to whisper me a secret and I got to the other and whisper him one so on and so forth. This takes about 15 minutes till one falls asleep because I generally make it into a whispery story time and they stay quiet for it. Oh and my opinion on CIO as a nanny. I am not a huge fan. I try to avoid it whenever is possible, there are some things I realize I wont be able to avoid it on. Nap time pretty much cannot be remedied and ends with me sitting indian style at the door saying "You shall not pass." But if you can work it out to get a routine that is relatively tear free I think it's better for them. Especially considering Williams night terrors have dramatically decreased. Not sure if that is a direct result, but enough of one where I think it's valid. Reply We're lucky our 5 month old goes to sleep relatively quickly. We do new diaper, jammies, and a top-off-the-tank nurse between 7 and 7:30. If its bath night (we do every other night baths), we start at about 6:45 – 7:00 in the tub. He LOVES bath time. The goal is always asleep by 8:00. We started putting him down in his cosleeper awake, but drowsy (that now has all sides up about 4 feet away from my side of the bed as we transition to crib in the room). He needs a pacifier more often than not. We sing songs to him and read a couple board books, sometimes just a gentle "ssshhhhh" is all we need. It can be anywhere from 2 minutes to 25 minutes from the time he goes down to dreamland, depending on how tired he is. Sometimes he just needs to kick a bit or fidget (his swan song). He often likes to hold onto his "baby" – a soft snuggly toy – to help go to sleep. But our current topic of discussion is staying asleep through the night. After a 2 week cold and my babe is starting teething, he's waking up every 2-2 1/2 hours. I'm trying not to nurse him every time he wakes and I managed to nurse just twice last night (out of 4 wake-ups). Any tips for longer sleep stretches? Reply Attentively listening to this one. My five month is up every 2 hours now. I think it's teething coupled with hunger. He is watching us eat our food like a hawk! He also has a sensitive tummy and sometimes he just needs to burp. I am hoping solids plus movement with crawling will help this. Otherwise, I will just hang out being the all night diner 🙂 Reply We've had a routine since my son was about 8 weeks and as my son as grown that routine has been modified. (for example, he doesn't nurse/bottle feed anymore). I think the important thing for getting babies and children to bed w/o much fuss is to have a routine and consistent bed time–whatever that is. Consistency is the key. So whatever your routine is–just keep it up and you will have a little issues throughout childhood getting your child to sleep. Reply With a two year old (Damian) and a 7 month old (Ivy,) bedtime is a joint effort. Ivy falls asleep at the breast and Damian snuggles on the couch in Daddy's lap while we watch something, usually something on Hulu (this evening is America's Got Talent though.) After Damian is asleep, my husband carries him to bed. Ivy goes in the crib if him and I need "couple time", otherwise she cosleeps with us. Reply Not a mama yet, but auntie to a darling and incredibly energetic 12 month old…who HAAAAATES going to sleep with every fiber of his little body. His mama does several great things, though– she swaddles him tight, so he can't distract himself with his own movements, gives him a bottle in a darkened room (sometimes a blanket has to suffice), and if he isn't getting drowsy, she gently strokes his nose and blows across his face to get his eyes to close. Sometimes, you just have to convince the kiddo to sleep. 🙂 Reply We Feberized our kiddo around four months but from the very beginning I would put him in his pajamas at the same time every day and tried to develop a routine from there. Now he is 20 months old and we follow this schedule: http://www.etsy.com/listing/38830213/bedtime-bus-roll-poster I have it posted on his wall and we read through it every night. He goes to bed at 7.30 and usually goes right to sleep. I think it is all about the same routine every night. Good luck! Developing a sleep schedule is not an easy road and everyone has to do what works for them. Reply Until 4 months, my baby slept on me or her dad. ONLY. We tried the moses basket, the crib, the swing, all of it. Nope. Baby girl was not lying her back, no way no how. If I lay her on her side, with two rolled blankets on either side and facing me (in our bed), then maaaaybe. Maybe we'd get an hour or 2. She nursed every 3 hours, so frankly it was easier just to hold her on my chest and sleep rather than have the drama…. At 4 months, she got her hip brace off (slight hip dysplasia) so now her poor little legs weren't in the air and I thought now it was time to move her out of our bed — Mama was tired and needed baby to sleep in her own room. Also right at this point it became blatantly apparent that she was NOT getting the concept of the pacifier. She would push it in and out of her mouth – which was not really that great since she'd cry when it fell out. Which was like, every 3 minutes. So we did a bit of CIO and took it away, encouraging her to suck on the arms of a tiger blanket/lovey instead (it was big and easy to grab onto). A few days of not-happiness ensued, but she soon took to the lovey. 🙂 So then she was sleeping in her bed for naps (it took several days of 15 minute naps for that to finally work!), and I was sleeping on a twin bed in her room at night for the next 2 months. I was still getting up every 3-4 hours to breastfeed her, and I was too lazy to get up and walk down the hall. My husband missed me. 🙂 At her 6 month check-up, I asked the doctor when she would stop breastfeeding in the night, and the doctor told me that my child had no medical reason to need to eat every 3 hours and that if I wanted to – I could "close the milk bar" at night. She had started solid foods a couple weeks earlier (again, in an attempt to get her to sleep longer) and yet she was still feeding like clockwork. So, in order to not give her the impression that I was ignoring her cries — I held her while she cried for milk in the night. It took about 4 or 5 nights for her to finally get the hint that I was not going to breastfeed her. I wasn't going to abandon her, but I just kept holding and rocking and letting her know that I totally got that I was screwing with a perfectly good (to her) routine and that nighttime was for sleeping, not eating… Most people would suggest my partner do this – but I didn't want her to "resent" him by thinking that it was HIS fault that she wasn't getting mama milk. Nope, I wanted to take responsibility as much as it made me cry as well!! Eventually it got to where she would cry out in the night, but I would pat her back and she'd go back to sleep. (I was still sleeping in her room) **PS: Since I was worried that the reason she was waking was that my breastmilk was not keeping her full, I began to give her a bottle of extra-filling "good night" formula at bedtime. This way if she woke, I didn't constantly worry -"but WHAT IF she is hungry??" I knew she wasn't, so it made it easier.** After patting her back to sleep for a few weeks, I decided to try letting her self-soothe – and moving out of her room. The learning to self-soothe part required the 5-minute cry, re-assure, 5-minute cry method that we'd successfully used with the removal of the pacifier. I knew she would do ok with this method. The first night it took 5 re-assures. 2nd night, she needed 3 re-assures. 3rd night, only 2 re-assures. And then it was done. The 4th night she slept through – only making a couple peeps and then going right back to sleep. Yahoo, I could finally sleep in my own bed and not have to get up! Anyways — we hit some sleep hiccups at the usual sleep regression points and teeth troubles and stuffy noses and the like where she couldn't self-soothe as usual. But no matter how much we went in, to re-assure her, to pat her back (she slept on her tummy since she could roll over) or to just sit next to her crib and hold her hand… I never did anything for more than 3 days in a row. I once read in some baby book "3 days to make a habit, and 5 days to break it" and I've always remembered that. So – eve when she had horrible jet lag coming back from our trip abroad — 3 nights was all I would stay with her. On the 4th night, she needed to work it out on her own. She still cries out occasionally, but within 1 minute she will settle and go back to sleep. I normally chock it up to a noise, a dream, an uncomfortable position… but unless she's really crying for more than 1-2 minutes – I don't go in. Anyways. Hope that helps. 🙂 Reply Er, the routine. Right. Bath, pajamas, bottle, brush teeth, put in bed. Turn on white noise, give her the lovey, shut door. Sometimes she goes instantly to sleep, sometimes she fusses a bit, sometimes I hear her in there for 20 minutes chatting away to god knows what. But she settles down on her own, no rocking or anything. It was important to me, since we occasionally need other people to put her to sleep and I have been in the position of having to read extensive "notes" on rocking techniques, required songs to sing, etc…. Now at 15 months, we will start to phase out the bottle and add a story instead. She's just too squirmy to sit still for long, so we are only doing a book once a week right now. Reply Well, our kiddo is now almost four and her sleep has always been awful. Always. I breastfed her to 22 months, we co-slept to about 15 months, but her night wakings continued. And continue. We chalk it up to 2 things: she's a night person (she will sleep from 10pm till 10am if left to her own devices) and we have moved three times in her short life already. So she really has no "normal." We try to maintain routines, but my husband hasn't been sold on the idea that the clock is king, so he tends to let her slide into the nine o'clock hour routinely. I was so frustrated by this that I tried taking over bedtime for a bit, but since hubby leaves the house at 5:30am and I do 100% of all morning prep and daycare drop off, I burnt out pretty quick with doing 100% of bedtimes too. Since the girl still wakes up once per night, and wanders into our room, the current arrangement is: Our mattress on floor, her old crib mattress on floor next to us. She goes to bed in her bed, in her room, wakes up sometime in the night, brings her pillow into our room, flops it and herself down quietly on crib mattress, and we are none the wiser till morning. It works, but it'd be awful nice to have a morning to ourselves once in a damn while. Reply Sleeping and naps have been a arduous journey for us. Not entering into the "cry it out" sleep debate – just wanted to share my own experience sleeping and then not sleeping with my little Elsa. http://patientobservations.com/2010/07/26/sleep-chronicles-sleeping-with-a-newborn/ Reply Join the conversation Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Subscribe me to your mailing list No-drama comment policy Part of what makes the Offbeat Empire different is our commitment to civil, constructive commenting. Make sure you're familiar with our no-drama comment policy.