My name is Megan, and I'm addicted to plastic bags #Nitty Gritty#garbage#habits#plastic bags April 8 | Megan Finley Horowitz meggyfin West Hollywood, I defy your plastic bag ban! I just smuggled in an entire plastic bag full of plastic bags! Mwahahaha… We've talked about ditching plastic, we've talked about the joys of re-usable bags, and all that other great-for-the-environment stuff. Oh, but my darling Homies, I have something to confess… I'm addicted to plastic grocery bags. Before you banish me to Earth-hater jail, allow me to explain… These plastic bags are an integral part of my waste-management system: I line all my small trashcans in the living room, bedroom, and bathrooms. Once the trashcan is full, I lift out the plastic bag, tie it off, and toss it. This makes it easy to take out the trash AND keeps my cans from getting gross. I also use the bags to clean out my litter box. I can also use them for picking up dog poop. Recently my neighborhood of West Hollywood implemented a ban on these magical plastic bags. While I love the plastic bag ban on Maui (an island-wide ban was implemented back in 2011) because it keeps plastic bags from floating into the very nearby ocean and killing ocean wildlife — I HATE having it in West Hollywood. When the ban was first implemented I tried using compostable bags to line my trash cans, but they were too small and didn't feel strong enough to stand up to my kitty litter dealings. They also didn't have those handy-dandy handles. I also thought about buying plastic grocery bags on Amazon. But that felt wasteful, knowing full well that there were plastic bags out there, already in circulation. Related Post Store your plastic grocery bags in tiny little folded triangles While I love that Seattle recently enacted a plastic bag ban, I also have always made heavy use of my plastic grocery bags -- they're... Read more How I feel when I get a delivery of plastic bags. So while others are thinking and celebrating ways to get rid of excess plastic in their homes, I'm hoarding plastic bags, and getting shipments in the mail of nothing but bags from my mom's plastic bag-rich home in Texas. Yes y'all, I'm currently IMPORTING plastic bags. I have a feeling my relationship with plastic bags might be upsetting to some of you. I know my addiction is controversial. But the heart wants what the heart wants. And I feel okay about it, since I'm re-using every single bag, not a one is going to end up in the throat of a fishy or a turtle. Are there other plastic-lovers in the house? What do you use your plastic grocery bags for — are there uses I haven't even thought of? Alternately, to those who can't get their bags off the black market, how are you coping with your bag bans? Reporter Name * Reporter Email * Original text Enter the original text here. Edited text* Enter your suggested copyedit here. Notes You can add a note for the editor here. * Required information. Fix Typo Megan Finley Horowitz When Megan's not writing, traveling, and sleeping, she's eating like the fate of the world depends on it. (You're welcome, world!) You can snoop into her personal life over on her website The Dash and Dine! @meggyfin @thedashanddine @meggyfin PREVIOUS Use the buddy system for boring or scary adult tasks NEXT How to furnish an apartment with just four hours at IKEA Show/Hide comments [ 140 ] Yes! I agree with you completely. I actually use plastic bags for the same reasons you do. There isn't plastic ban in Toronto so I have plenty. I actually use them several times over when I bring my lunch to work, reuse them at the grocery store, and use them for trash collector in my car. 28 agree Reply I love using plastic bags for lunch. If I am bringing a soup I give it a wrap with a plastic bag. So if there is a little leakage it is easy to toss. If not, it comes back home to be reused. 8 agree Reply Sometimes I wish there was more effort to rein in the plastic bags in Toronto though. Our house has a bad habit of getting massive amounts of plastic bags, just because a nearby store has this annoying habit of bagging every damn thing separately. And we never remember the reusable bags. 1 agrees Reply Austin implemented a plastic bag ban maybe a year ago, and I really used to struggle to remember my reusable bags. Of course, every grocery store sells them, but then I'd end up with way more than I need and I'd be wasting money for a product I already have enough of. I implemented a carry it myself punishment, where – if I forgot my bags – I'd have to take my groceries without any bags. That got me remembering in a hurry. I also leave them in my car now, and they go straight on the door handle to go back to the car after being brought inside. 3 agree Reply The "carry it myself" rule, as it were, is what we've ended up with when we forget the bags. VERY rarely there aren't even any in the car. But usually it's just "Oh crap, forgot the bags, just pay and put it all back in the cart & we will bag it at the car." Bagging is my mister's job (I'm disabled, he helps me do all the shopping) and if he has to stand in the Seattle rain because he forgot them in the car, well, guess he should've remembered! (To be fair he usually forgets because he's getting me a cart to ride, so it's a joint effort and I'm usually reminding him. But it is NICE to have it his job because if he has to stand in the rain to bag things into the car he has no one to be mad at but himself.) As far as the lack of plastic bags is concerned, I found it's cheaper to just buy tiny trash bags than import them. However, only marginally so, and I applaud reusing them rather than increasing the market for new. My mom uses them as shipping materials when she sends me care packages. Also, we were buying cat litter for a while that by SHEER HAPPENSTANCE the cheapest cat litter and the one we liked the best comes in square pails. The mister has one lined with a trash bag, scoops the litter clumps into it, & replaces the lid. He empties the pail when it gets full, so instead of using a grocery bag every day (er, two) he uses one not much bigger for a month. The pail does not smell up the apartment with the lid on, but oh heavens you do not want to be in the hallway while he's scooping. Ammonia hell! As far as bathroom & bedroom trash cans, they get scrubbed as needed, but that's not very often. I just find they don't need to be lined as badly as I used to think they did. The mister walks around the house and empties them all into a bag come trash day–which now that we live in an apartment is "whenever the heck he gets to it" and no longer "it's midnight and the trash truck comes at 6-10am." 3 agree Reply Dallas just instituted a "partial" ban last week. Meaning people will be charged a fee for each bag (paper or plastic) they use. I have a stockpile of plastic bags that come into the house from others, but I really prefer to bring my own when I shop, so I don't end up buried in them. I make sure the plastic bags I do end up with get used for good. It's funny that it's such an oddly polarizing issue! 2 agree Reply *waves at fellow Dallas lady* I commented on this too, below! 1 agrees Reply I love plastic grocery bags for the very reasons you mention. There's talk here in Dallas of a plastic bag ban, but I feel conflicted. On one hand, yes they're terrible for the environment, but on the other hand, kitty litter is so much easier to handle with a plastic bag. 6 agree Reply Science has shown plastic bag bans do not help. The reusable bags are made out of a worse kind of plastic and are shipped from China whereas the plastic bags are made in North America. Add to that the fact that you are supposed to wash your bags regularly -using soap hot water and energy. They break often and have to be replaced, the majority of these reusable bags don't get used enough times before ending up in the garbage to offset thier environmental foot print. The single use plastic bags always found many uses in our house before being recycled, the reusable ones aren't recyclable. These plastic bag bans make me want to bang my head on the wall. Yes if you use cotton bags they are better environmentally, but the vast majority of people use the crappie ones they sell at the grocery store. Reply "Science has shown plastic bag bans do not help." Sources, please. Plastic bags are banned where I am. I drive across the bridge to Vancouver, WA and I see plastic bags blowing down their streets, stuck in trees and on the river banks. I'd say that Portland's ban is working simply based on observation – the goal is to cut down on litter and also get people thinking about the things they discard. When I lived in Hawaii, the beaches that are usually downwind on the Tradewinds path are covered in plastic bags. They get lodged in the trees and eventually end up in the ocean. Sure, the cheap reusable plastic based bags aren't the best option, but it is certainly a step in the right direction. I don't think the bags I'm throwing in my washer with my regular kitchen laundry are creating a measurable amount of energy waste – I'd be washing those rags and towels anyway and a couple small grocery bags aren't going to make a difference. Transport is an issue, but that is combatted by spending a little more for a bag produced locally. Or using fabric you already have to make a bag. Pillow cases, old t-shirts sewn up, old sweatpants with drawstrings are especially good for a new life as bag – cut off the legs, sew the open edges, and you have a drawstring bag ready to go. There are a lot of options. The downside to bans are when customers are charged for bags – that can have a negative impact on people living in poverty. But that isn't the case where I live because there isn't a tax or charge for receiving a paper bags at stores. Reply I didn't have time to post sources before, but a quick Google search will provide plenty of evidence against plastic bag bans. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-18/how-a-ban-on-plastic-bags-can-go-wrong http://www.allaboutbags.ca/reusablesgreenerrmyth.html http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-richards/austins-plastic-bag-ban-worse-environment-bags-it-outlaws http://tribunist.com/environment/paper-or-plastic-study-shows-huge-carbon-footprint-for-reusable-bags/ I can't find the study on the impacts of washing them, but if you wash them after each use as you are supposed to, it's significant and then they fall apart. The more expensive bags have their pitfalls too as they have a higher carbon footprint to manufacture., but realistically if we are talking about the environmental impact of a bag ban it's moot as the vast majority of people buy the cheap ones. Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network. Reply I truly wish someone could come up with a compostable bag that felt a bit stronger and a bit bigger, i would totally buy those for cat litter. I sometimes use the compostable doggie scoop bags for litter, out of guilt, but their opening really is way too small to work. Toronto used to charge 5 cents for them, and i was okay with that. It meant you had the option of getting them, but it also meant people wouldn't take them unless they had no choice or truly wanted them. we try to use canvas bags for most of our shopping, but with the two-cat situation we need some bags on hand. (we also reuse bread bags, the bag our newspaper comes in on rainy days, etc, for this purpose so that we can limit our grocery bag usage and reuse all incoming plastic at least once….) i deem them a necessary evil. 12 agree Reply Oh those bags exist but few retailers buy them because they cost a boatload. I have a local store, which is fondly called the "hippie store" around here, that uses tough compostable plastic bags. They're really nice looking too so it's a shame for me to scoop kitty litter into them but they hold it super well so…… 1 agrees Reply I think we all do what we can do to help, without making ourselves crazy. We use plastic bags in the same way as Megan (kitty litter + double bags = essential.) We've cut out paper towels from our house completely, use reusable menstrual products, recycle and reuse all the glass bottles that come into the house, and compost all of our food scraps. If everyone did one or two things to reduce their impact, it would make a massive difference overall. I try to not get overwhelmed with guilt about choices that I know aren't stellar (same thing with buying organic/local food- I do my best without making myself crazy.) Sometimes, a little knowledge can equal much guilt, but it's all about balance. 21 agree Reply Like you, I do what I can and let go of the rest. My goal is "better." Better than before, better than average, better than yesterday, better than the worst. Yes, I'm going to eat boxed mac & cheese sometimes. But I try to buy Annie's since it's at least organic–it's better. Yes, I'm going to snack on potato chips sometimes, but usually head for tortilla chips–they're better, because they have less salt & grease & more nutritional value. And when I do choose potato chips, it's better than eating nothing. I use reusable towels because that way I'm not adding to the landfill, even though I'm not entirely sure if washing them is better–but it is cheaper, so that = better. Reusable toilet wipes & menstrual products? Better than TP & disposables, and I don't give a crap about the environmental aspect of that, that's a bonus to me. Also reuse glass bottles and have seriously reduced our demand for on new plastics. Then I do crap like buy plastic planters for my garden because they're only a dollar (they were labeled BPA free though so there's that). Because there's only so much I can do and hey, growing my own greens & herbs is Better. Speaking of, I also buy tubes of squeezy herb pastes. Because they last sooooo much longer and I actually get all of the product that I buy fro them as opposed to buying a bunch of cilantro and having half of it go to waste every time. I actually SAVE money buying $4 tubes of 3 oz of cilantro puree. Also being able to have fresh-tasting garlic without aggravating my arthritis is amazing. 3 agree Reply Leachate from the Landfill from garbage and plastics like your bags seeps into the groundwater, poisoning ground and water animals. It's great that you don't see a *direct* impact to a "popular" animal like the sea turtles, but don't fool yourself into thinking there's NO impact. 33 agree Reply smells like sanctimonious self righteous posturing and otherizing to me. how about something constructive like an option, instead of finger wagging? 30 agree Reply That's just facts. How is that "sanctimonious"? Sanctimonious would be assuming I'm morally superior; I didn't state what I do or don't do. I'm merely offering facts from a waste management perspective as a counterpoint to assuming there's no harm because they're reused. I don't know that I have an option for someone I don't know. There aren't a lot of great options out there. I mean, one option is simply not using a bag in each bin, but she's already stated that's not an option – now THAT would be finger wagging. I don't feel I've done any of the things your comment accuses me of. 19 agree Reply Kiki, you raise a good point, do you have an studies or links that might back this up and educate us a little more? 16 agree Reply And also — bags in some form are a necessity, so what I'd be interested in is how do plastic bags (even assuming that they are reused <50% of the time) compare to those standard reusable grocery bags? I would assume that the reusable ones have a much higher manufacturing impact, which is offset to some degree by their longer lifespan (mine break and need to be replaced about every 6 months). To me, the plastic vs reusable is similar to the paper vs plastic debate…. neither is a perfect solution; they are just impacting the environment in different ways. 8 agree Reply She responds further down below 🙂 Reply Surely that applies to any bin bag though? What else can we throw stuff away in? 6 agree Reply Wait, are there people that throw out plastic bags? Just like, throw them in another bag and send it to the landfill? Why? They're so useful! We reuse plastic grocery bags in all of our garbage cans (except the kitchen one, because it's bigger and needs a real garbage bag), for cleaning out the hedgehog cage, and someday we'll have a dog to clean up after, too! 11 agree Reply I had a room mate who would do that… I finally appealed to his laziness that if you don't throw all the bags in the trash, you don't have to empty the trash as often. Put them in the closet with the recycling, instead. Also in this house I would frequently come home to the windows open and the heat or air conditioning running. And another room mate would use 2 entire paper towels to wipe up a tiny tiny spill that would take 2 square inches of paper towel to wipe up. Or wrap each sandwich in 3 layers of plastic wrap before also putting it in tupperware. Or ALWAYS get leftovers to go in styrofoam containers, but NEVER actually eat them. Or had friends who would throw away dishes if they didn't feel like cleaning them. And they would also throw away pennies because they didn't want to deal with them. It drove me crazy living in that house of people who I swear were being wasteful on purpose. 1 agrees Reply This literally makes me want to cry. Ugh 🙁 6 agree Reply I know, I did a couple of times. Reply They threw away PENNIES? That is possibly the craziest thing, ever. Haha. 2 agree Reply My MIL & FIL do the "windows open, air on" thing ALL. The. Time. Even going so far as to layer on three blankets because the AC is making the house too cold. As in, walking past the thermostat twice to go grab another blanket. Yeah. 🙁 And then it's too hot in here so we're going to open the windows, but not turn down the heat. I simply refused to contribute to the utilities so long as they refused to cooperate with reducing the bills. PS, us living with them and turning off all the lights behind them and only running a load of laundry once instead of forgetting it 4 times and rerunning it actually reduced those bills, so they couldn't really complain about our lack of monetary contribution. Their food waste was phenomenal before we moved in, too. They would go out grocery shopping, then be too tired to cook any of it and just go out to eat all the time. Now, don't get me wrong, I've done that sometimes too; I'll go shopping which will send me into a fibro flare and I can't cook for days. However, that has been their lifestyle consistently for years. Somewhere along the way I learned to plan a crockpot or frozen dinner for grocery day, not buy things that take too much energy to prep, and submit to the siren call of the occasional convenience food. 1 agrees Reply Pennies are useless, that's why Canada stopped minting them years ago. They were costing more to produce than the other face value. Reply Hey Kiki, I'm interested in learning more about Leachate. Do you have resources about this? I'm personally in the try to avoid plastic bags camp, but I'm interested in general. 5 agree Reply Leachate management is different in different areas – some areas have strict rules and regulations and others don't yet have that. Older landfills tend to be the worst, of course, just because there was less awareness or concern when they were built – and it's also quite expensive to build a properly managed waste facility, and many municipalities just can't afford it (especially with crumbling aged infrastructure across North America). Think of leachate like…coffee from the landfill. But nasty, toxic coffee… The Solid Waste Association of North America (SWANA) has tons of info and courses, that's one of the best places to start: https://swana.org/Education/CourseCatalog/LandfillLandfillGas/AdvancedLeachateManagementBioreactorLandfills.aspx It's a massive area of concern and study in Waste Management. Just google "leachate management" to get started! https://www.google.ca/search?q=leachate+management&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&safe=active&gfe_rd=cr&ei=BQxEU87GDdLQ-AOQ0IDYAQ And hey, this is from ALL garbage, not just the plastic bags. So I'm just as guilty as the next person because it's not like my household is garbage-free! 6 agree Reply Just because you have become accustomed to doing something one way does not mean that it is the best way. Sometimes when we are forced out of our comfort zone we find more amazing options and are then surprised that we didn't make the change earlier. My solution for the little trash cans is to use them only for things that won't be messy and keep messy/ stinky trash for the kitchen. With a compost bin, even that trash can doesn't get very messy. It is also possible to clean the bins periodically. I have faith that you can find solutions that work for you and do not require plastic bags. Get creative! 21 agree Reply While I believe this is a wonderful solution, I can't see it working without the aid of reusable menstrual products. I'm hands down the least germaphobic person I know and there is no way I would put my used tampons in the kitchen trash. 4 agree Reply I thought they were better flushed. I could swear I've seen them disintegrate in water, but I'm not a regular user and I don't know how terrible either way might be. Seen some getting tossed in the bin and they make a royal mess 1 agrees Reply Tampons are cotton – they don't disintegrate. 3 agree Reply Holy smokes please don't ever flush tampons! Yes, technically (according to the package) they are flushable, but they are a HUGE source of plumbing issues because they expand and block your pipes (trapping toliet paper and other junk, causing a "lovely" backup). 17 agree Reply So… What's stopping you from using reusable menstrual products? Once I got the hang of the diva cup, I never touched a tampon again because it's 110% easier/better/effective. 8 agree Reply Everyone always claims diva cups are better, I found them messier to use when they worked right, they leaked far more often and much more seriously when they did leak, and more uncomfortable when it was in properly. I gave up using mine after trying for half a year. I didn't find it had a single benefit. 5 agree Reply There are loads of different models of menstrual cups as all women are built differently (position of the cervix, amount of blood, strength of the pelvic base). There are facebook groups etc. who can help you find the right one (I'm in a German group so it wouldn't be any use for you, otherwise I would have posted the link). Please don't give up too soon 🙂 Wow, I don't remember how old my original comment was (probably something like 5 years old, with the time I gave up diva cups being 10 years ago) but I actually did recently give menstrual cups another shot. I got myself some Thinx underwear, and they seemed like such a perfect solution to my leaking issues with the diva cup (and a cup seemed like the perfect solution to my issues with Thinx). So, I've been using the Luna cup for a couple months. I'm not convinced it's the perfect solution, it's still messy as hell (and some months I just don't bother with the cup) but it's definitely a lot better of a set up in general. Maybe only use a plastic bag as a liner when you're on your period then? I have no problem wrapping pantyliners in toilet paper and throwing them in an unlined trash, though I don't know that I'd feel the same way about pads/tampons. If you're on your period one week/month and you don't line the trash bag the other weeks, you're cutting down on your plastic use by 75%! (In the bathroom. Assuming a once/week trash removal cycle.) 2 agree Reply In my house, we probably never emptied the trash that often. Probably only once a month, after my period, when I used to used disposables. But that's still a way to consider it and be mindful, at least. As for those having problems with diva cups: There are a bunch of other cups you can try, some people find softer ones work better for them, but I find I'm much happier with my sea sponge and cloth pads. You do you! But if you're looking for other options, that's what I like! 1 agrees Reply I reuse plastic bags all the time, mostly for shopping again & emptying the kitty litter. But I don't line any smaller garbage cans with them for 2 reasons: 1 (purely superficial): I don't like how it looks–it doesn't make sense to me to have cute little decorative cans & then cover up half of them with ugly plastic & handles hanging over the top all the time. But more importantly, 2: I don't find it necessary at all, since any trash in these small cans is pretty tame (wrappers & tissues, nothing wet or sticky) & so easily dumped when emptying all of the garbages into (you guessed it) another plastic bag. But the difference is that I use 1 bag for all the garbages for the entire house, and the kitty litter scoopings, however much I can fit into it instead of wasting one bag per garbage every time. Just as easy, more re-using–and nicer looking–as continually re-lining each of them. 6 agree Reply We don't line our little trashcans either – and even for menstrual stuff, I wrap it in TP before tossing it in the trash so it doesn't stick to the can and get gross. It works out fine. Every few days it gets dumped into the main trashcan. Another option is to line the small trashcans with plastic bags, but then still dump everything into the main trash, leaving the lining on the little cans. It keeps the cans from getting gross, and if you throw something really yucky away you can still remove the liner, but if all that's in the can is some floss and tissue paper, you can keep reusing that liner. Even if you still totally remove the plastic bag liner during shark week, that's still decreasing your consumption by 75%, at least for trashcan lining. 5 agree Reply Shopping again!!! 🙂 Glad someone else does this. But the peeps of plastic-banned San Jose give me so much shit over reusing my plastics, even though we are clearly not natives to the region [hooray for accents!] and these bags came with us when we moved. Reply not sure how many kitties you have, but we get the 32-orsomethingobscene pound plastic container for litter. When one is empty, we put the dirty litter in that, which has a handle, to then take to our transfer station for processing (our town uses our trash for powering most of our region). It's the same re-use principle, but you get a bit longer before throwing everything out again. Not sure what other quirks on waste disposal WeHo has, but it's been working for us for a few years now. 5 agree Reply We faced the same conundrum when we moved to Germany when I was a teenager. Here you have to pay 10 cents for a shopping bag at the supermarket, and they are hardcore, thick plastic ones. But the good ole 'Murrican ones are much better as garbage bin liners! And why buy bin liners when you get them for free? (Except not) I've come to terms with it by now, though. I always have a reusable shopping bag or a backpack for groceries, so we have few plastic bags in our house, and those precious ones get used for litter box scooping (they are thicker than "normal" shopping bags, which is good in that case). As for doggy scooping: I always found grocery bags to be too big (even with my German Shepherd), so I would get the biodegradable ones that come on the little dispensers, which are more convenient anyway. (Except where I live in Germany, we pay an annual tax for keeping a dog – because there's a tax for everything – and in exchange get free poopy bags, or "walkies bags" as they are called here.) In summation: you get used to it. In the long run, it's better! 8 agree Reply Personally I'm not a fan of plastic bags, they take up space and will eventually end up in a landfill 🙁 But… my husband and I are terrible at remembering all of our canvas bags when we shop (I keep saying I'm going to put them in the car, but since I almost never drive I never do it)… so we have a bag collection. This summer though I've got my solution. I've already started making "yarn" out of my existing plastic bags, so I'm going to knit myself strong durable plastic bags… from plastic bags. That way those same bags can be used for years and years and won't end up in a landfill nearly as quickly. And once I have those bags they will go in the car. No excuses. 19 agree Reply I'm fascinated by the idea of knitting reusable bags from plastic ones. Is this something you developed on your own or do you have some links you could share on how to do this? Not only would I like to make some for myself, I feel like this could be a great gift idea. 2 agree Reply Hi—I've been working on crocheting myself a bag made out of plastic bags (it's in my Unfinished Objects pile right now though). Here's a link to explain the process… you have to start by making yourself some plarn, which involves cutting the bags into strips and connecting the strips with a half hitch. Then, using a large hook or needles, you can make whatever you like! http://www.plasticbagcrafts.com/make-plarn/ 2 agree Reply I've never made it by cutting into strips and hitching together, I usually cut a spiral down the bag. 1 agrees Reply I made two using the Morehouse Farm pattern (http://www.morehousefarm.com/PlastiKnits/). The result was disappointing and I think for the use I got out of it, I would have been better off just reusing the bags in their original form. I'm a pretty experienced knitter so I don't think it was me, I do pack my groceries pretty heavy though. What I would do differently: Only use the same exact bags from the same exact store, the slight differences in plastic strength created some weird stretching and the joining areas of two different types were where most of my breaks occurred I'd cut my plastic strips thicker than recommended and use 2 or 3 strands at a time I would find a pattern with separate handles and do them extra thick, like a regular plastic bag they stretched thin with heavy loads, and wore out faster than the rest of the bag. It would have been nice to change them out. Plastic needles worked better than my metal ones Overall, I use my plastic bags for trash liners, since regular garbage bags don't fit down our super small trash chute, dog poop, and traveling with wet stuff like bathing suits or muddy shoes. They get reused and it's beyond silly to pay for special trash bags and after some umm "shitty" incidents with the fancy biodegradable poop bags, well never again. 1 agrees Reply Plarn! (plastic yarn made from plastic bags) I crocheted a plastic bag once. It's okay for lighter items, but not so good for heavier ones (such as milk or soda). I really didn't like the plarn because the texture is incredibly tough on my hands. It was kinda cool though, because one crochet plastic bag ended up using about 80 of my normal grocery store bags. It's a pretty quick way to re-use a stockpile of plastic bags. Reply My sister used to take the brown plastic bags and braid them into necklaces. They looked like those raffia ones. Oh man, ditch the grocery bags for poop pick up! I'm a professional dog walker so I scoop a lot of poop. I have gotten messy hands from the old grocery bags but I have NEVER had a break, tear or leak with these: Earth Rated Poop Bags No Scent You can get them on chewy.com, $35 for 900 bags and two dispensers They offer a pantry pack too which works great for scooping litter boxes. They also have vegetable based bags that truly compost if your city accepts pet waste! I have not tried these, but knowing their other products, I bet they are reliable. http://www.instructables.com/id/Knit-Plastic-Bag-Handbag/ 1 agrees Reply I demand a "how to" guest post about this! That sounds awesome: http://offbeathome.com/submissions/post 15 agree Reply When I am cleaning up the house, I put the bags in the car. Or hang them on the door knob, so I am physically touching them on my way out. 2 agree Reply This is pretty awesome actually – my fella and I are both pretty terribad at taking out the garbage, and so for a few years we got into the habit of hanging it on the door handle. I think we may have finally progressed past this step and can make use of it in other ways… like this! 1 agrees Reply I wouldn't say I'm addicted to them, and while I definitely agree that there needs to be less plastic, I don't know how I would cope in a bag ban sitch. I try to bring my reusable bags to the grocery store, but I don't freak out if I don't because I know I will use the plastic bags in the same way you do. My roommies and I use our plastic bags for trash can liners (HELL TO THE NO am I paying out the butt for tiny Glad trash bags when I can get that ish for free at Acme or Wawa) and to collect kitty litter business and car trash. 3 agree Reply We have a huge bag of plastic bags that we use for little garbage cans and such. It keeps growing, even though we started using canvas bags 2 years ago. The problem is, if I don't bag the groceries myself, the bag person will put various things in plastic bags to separate each item! But we try to reuse those plastic bags, and the ones for veggies and bread that we inevitably get. I wish they had paper bags for veggies. Reply As a heads up, stores are fine with you also bringing small canvas or muslin bags for your veggies – whole foods even sells (wildly over expensive) cloth bags for that purpose. It might be tricky to remember so many bags, but if it is a priority to you it's totally doable! 3 agree Reply Ooh, more about reusable produce bags over here: http://offbeathome.com/reusable-produce-bags 2 agree Reply I know it's not super-cleanly since they contained unwashed fruit and veggies, but I like to use the plastic veggie-bags instead of plastic wrap. It's especially good for covering things where the bag isn't directly touching the food anyway. 1 agrees Reply That's a good idea. I don't even use them for things like onions or anything else where you can put the sticker directly on the item, but when I do get them I need to find another use for them! Maybe they would be good for dirty stuff anyway, like wet shoes or dirty gym clothes. Reply I picked up a package of mesh drawstring bags from the dollar store. They were originally for "car organization" or some shit, and I bought them to try to get out of zippered lingerie bags (pro-tip: don't). But they work GREAT as produce bags! Cashiers really don't mind if I put the things we purchase "by the each" into the same bag, as long as it isn't so stuffed that it can't lay flat and they can count everything. The stuff that has to be weighed I bag into the mesh post-scanning. Those go home and just live in the fridge–if I don't have mesh bags in my shopping bags, it's a good bet I don't need those tomatoes because I've forgotten some in the fridge. Reply Hint to make the bag stash more manageable: http://snapguide.com/guides/fold-plastic-bags-for-reuse/ Reply They have cloth bags for veggies. I get the CSA haul in mesh produce bags, which were fairly cheap on Amazon. I can't remember the name but I got the link for them from this site so hopefully someone knows. I never use plastic bags for produce anymore. Reply I use these mesh bags for produce. I get strange looks every time, but who cares?: Flip and tumble Set of 5 Reusable Produce Bags 5 agree Reply These are the ones I have! I love them and use them all the time. If they get too nasty, just pop them in the washing machine. It's amazing how much fewer plastic bags I use now. 1 agrees Reply I like these for getting produce, but it does nothing to help keep it fresh like those green bags do. I used to be able to walk to the store on my way home from work when I lived in the city, so I would get just what I needed, but now it's a car ride and I get the week's produce. Anyone tried the reusable produce bags? Reply I, too, use alllll the plastic bags. Every time I go to TJ's I end up buying one or two bags, but yeah…I forget to put them back in the car -_- Being one who is always working to simplify, I use them all the time (shoes muddy? Bag 'em till we get home! Doggy poop? Bag it! Nail polish remover stinky cotton pads, greasy messes? See above! Stinky shoes–fill 'em with baking soda, double bag them for a couple of days!) Huh, shoes are an issue here. Thanks, my 3 sons. But also, I learned from my grandmother (91 years young!) to cut them into strips, knot the ends, and crochet anything imaginable! 2 agree Reply Just a few disparate offhand thoughts: *We do a lot of farmer's and flea market shopping, and we periodically take all of our variously acquired plastic bags to friends who sell at those markets so that they can reuse them to bag merchandise. Thus, less bags must be purchased and less bags exist overall. Ditto for egg cartons. *When bagging stuff you intend to keep: (Like a change of clothes, shoes, etc.-Not garbage) don't forget to bow or slipknot your bags-Not having to cut or tear them open means longer0 reuse of the bag. My favorite knot for the job is a tight half bow (just tie a bow but pull one of the "ears" completely through *I second the reuse of kitty litter buckets above – this is muy handy for cleaning several pans at a go, and the buckets can be dumped directly into the big trash can and reused again. (Fun fact – kitty litter bins are great kid stilts!) *It is worth mention that your higher quality bags, such as zip bags, etc. are similarly reusable, if washed. 7 agree Reply I wish my mother-in-law would go by the half bow, it drives me crazy when she gives us stuff double-crazy-tight-knotted so there's no way to get out the contents without ripping open the bag & having to throw it out! Though I can't complain too much cause they're usually full of our daughter's clothes/shoes from when she watched her that she's giving us back…. how to criticize when someone's doing you a favor? Baby steps. Someday I'll casually mention it. 2 agree Reply I reuse my plastic grocery bags in the same way for my little garbage cans in the bathroom. I also keep all of my plastic bags inside of another, larger bag. When it is completely full, I take it to my grocery store which has a bin to recycle the plastic bags. 9 agree Reply I try to reduce the number of bags that we use for trashcan-liners, so I can get fewer of them from the store and recycle the ones I do get. Bedroom trashcan- really only used for tissues, so I can empty that trashcan directly into the collection bin without using a bag. When I have room for 2 composts, I will compost everything biodegradable that I don't necessarily want to put on my garden. Right now I only have room for garden-friendly compost. Living room trashcan – the kitchen really isn't that far away, so just use that one. Kitchen trashcan – Put large or stinky stuff directly in the collection bin outside so that bag only needs to be changed when it's full. Bathroom trashcan – currently stays Kitty litter trashcan – has a lid, so we can scoop poop every day, but only throw out the bag when it is full 2 agree Reply I LOVE my plastic bags too! I know it's terrible, but I have a 20 month old and a dog; they are a part of daily life with those giant mess monsters. My city just instituted a partial bag ban, which I don't know if it'll stay because Dallas folks hate to be associated with Austin folks and Lord knows that recycling and thinking about the environment is part of that weirdo hippie shit. (insert eye roll here) I'm not sure how I'll handle it, but have already started hoarding… Did anyone else who's city had a partial or total ban see a huge issue with transitioning? 2 agree Reply I'm in Austin and we used to use our plastic grocery bags for the same things Megan used them for. After the ban, we quickly went through the ones we had stored up and there was definitely a transition period where I just wasn't sure what I was supposed to do. Eventually, we stopped lining our small trash cans and just make sure we empty and clean them when they get dirty. I usually go around the house with a big garbage bag and empty them all at once into a single bag. Most of our trash goes into the kitchen trash can though. For cat litter, well, I should probably clean the litter boxes (we have two) more often, but since I usually only manage to do it once or twice a week and we use clumping litter, the amount of litter and waste that needs to be thrown away is somewhat significant and I usually end up using a kitchen trash bag for that. Not that I'm recommending people don't clean their cat litter boxes frequently, but just that's how it worked out for us. So basically what I'm saying is that I now just wait for there to be enough to throw away that I can justify a large kitchen trash bag. It works for me because I'm incredibly lazy and I hate cleaning. The good thing is that I now always remember my cloth bags when I go grocery shopping because I hate having to buy a new bag. Although, I do usually bring some bags home with me when I visit my parents since they don't have a ban where they live. 2 agree Reply ALSO!! I don't know much about this company, other than a TED talk I saw in 2011, but they make lignon-based plastic bags that biodegrade after 150 days. Not readily available yet, but when they do become so, maybe it'll be the best of both worlds?? http://www.cyclewood.com/home http://newswire.uark.edu/articles/19906/national-science-foundation-awards-grant-to-cyclewood-solutions 1 agrees Reply I think what Kiki was saying above is that EVEN when you reuse the bags as "trash" bags, they still end up in the landfill (and they are a petroleum product, and throwing them away can cause issues when the chemicals finally break down). The plastic trash bags I buy are biodegradable, which is another option. You can also use reusable bags to not collect the store plastic bags in the first place. For more info on leachate from landfills leaking into groundwater you can just google. I found a few links: http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-040-03/ http://www.beyondlandfilling.org/landfill-groundwater-impacts.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leachate http://www.zerowasteamerica.org/landfills.htm 2 agree Reply As Wikipedia points out, the fact that a bag breaks down doesn't mean it's safe or good for the earth–or compost. Honestly, that sounds just as scary as a traditional plastic bag, though possibly less of a threat to animal life, depending on how long it takes to break down. And it's worth noting that without proper air, heat and water, many "biodegradable" items will not break down. Landfills don't offer the right environment, and can actually encourage the production of methane. I, too, love my plastic grocery bags. I try to get as few of them as possible and to use them as smartly as possible. I live in an area where a plastic bag ban is not likely to happen, but I'm always encouraged by how full the recycling bins stay for plastic bags (though I'm sure that process is a whole can of worms.) 6 agree Reply For the cat litter issue, I've done away with plastic bags by using flushable cat litter. World's Best Cat Litter is the type I use, it's made out of corn so its safe to flush. http://www.amazon.com/Worlds-Best-Multiple-Clumping-Formula/dp/B000QSK4ZM 1 agrees Reply Flushing kitty litter is generally frowned upon, even if the litter claims to be "flushable". Flushable does not always mean septic or environmentally safe. Septic systems can be finnicky, and if you're on town waste water, the cat feces can contain parasites that are harmful if they get into rivers and lakes. 4 agree Reply Couple problems w/flushing cat litter — can clog drains, mess up septic systems, & worse for the environment, the toxoplasma parasite is super-common in cats (bec. they eat meat, esp. cats who go outdoors & eat wild birds or rodents), & when you flush cat litter, that parasite gets into the water system. It's been linked to deaths of sea life, particularly otters on the West Coast of the U.S. Runoff from lawns where outdoor cats poop is also linked to this problem — yet another reason to keep cats indoors only. (FYI, that parasite is also the reason doctors say pregnant women & ppl with suppressed immune systems shouldn't clean dirty litterboxes). 2 agree Reply Personally, I can't get behind the fact that we have such a surplus of corn and corn by-products that we encourage its use for cats to relieve themselves on. 1 agrees Reply I tried using corn litter for a while. I had the box on the porch (second floor, so no way for the cat to use the "outdoors"). It attracted rodents, who ate the corn, and pooped all over my porch. Not cool! Went back to clay. Reply My county in California has a plastic bag ban. And while I support it, the only thing I couldn't get past was what I was going to do with the kitty litter. You mean, you want me to BUY bags to put POOP IN? I ordered the Litter Genie online and I absolutely love it. I have three cats, and while it still uses plastic bags, I only go through one bag every week or so. Also, it keeps me from having to haul the bag of cat poop down to the outside trash every day. 4 agree Reply Whoaaaaa, that thing is AWESOME! That might be my go-to once I'm shit-out-of-luck with mah precious bags. 2 agree Reply …people scoop the litter box more than once a week?? Damn, no wonder my cat complains. 🙂 4 agree Reply I just use a large tupperware container with no plastic bag, and knock the poop into the trash every few days. The water-proof seal I get from the snap-on lid also keeps the smell 100% under control. Reply I'm not sure about in the USA but here in Ireland our recycling centers / waste collection services accept plastic bags for recycling so when we use ziplock bags etc. and they reach the end of life we pop them into the recycling. 2 agree Reply We had lots of insects in our apartment during the winter (yay, southeastern US), and the exterminator specifically told us to get rid of our plastic bag collection (I guess bugs like hanging out in bags?). I use plastic bags all the time for all kinds of things, and I was sad to have to get rid of my collection (yes, recycling is available, though I don't actually know where the bags went when they got recycled). Now I just keep one or two on hand at a time. But sometimes I have a fear, "What if I need a plastic bag, and I don't have one?!" Reply Could you get some of these and store your plastic bags in them? http://m.ziploc.com/our-products-non-food-storage.html#non-food-storage-oversize Reply Aside from the poop issue (plastic bags all the way), I just wanted to comment that the same stuff can be done with the paper bags from the grocery store. We started using them when we put in a disposal and our old garbage can didn't fit under our sink anymore. And then it was an epiphany! Why were we paying to wrap our garbage in plastic, when we can toss it for free into degradable paper? We do have a garbage disposal, so we don't have a ton of "wet stuff" going in, but the regular paper bags from the grocery store do just fine holding regular kitchen garbage like coffee grinds, etc. They would definitely hold diapers, regular bathroom garbage, etc. And the ones with the handles are super easy to carry outside. Wins! 3 agree Reply Ooh, my paper bags are used as my recycling bin! I don't have ANY room in my tiny kitchen for two garbage bins, but enough room for one paper sack in the corner, and boom! Once it fills up, I carry it down to our big recycling bins. But the shitty party is that the grocery stores started charging for paper bags once the plastic ban happened! I don't get that. 1 agrees Reply The logic on charging for paper is that now there is an incentive for you to get reusable bags. 4 agree Reply Yes, this. Our county has had a plastic bag ban for… a year now? And paper bags are 10 cents each. I rarely forget bags now (I keep several in my car, and it's second nature to replace them/bring them into the store) because it's been long enough that I'm really used to it. It's not hard to train yourself to bring reusable bags. We have a big bag of them in the house and when we do a big shopping trip and use up all the ones in the cars, we put a pile by the front door so we take them back down again. It has become second nature now– it's totally possible! 1 agrees Reply As long as I can remember my mom has used paper bags for both garbage and recycling. She lives alone and doesn't generate much trash so every week she takes her one paper bag to the trash can. When my brother and I lived with her, she'd put two paper bags side by side in one big trash bag and leave that for the garbage truck. Sometimes the paper sack requires a little strategy (like, you don't want to just dump a whole bunch of wet leftovers in there – my mom uses another container she's already throwing away for that messy trash) and there have been a couple incidents that required wiping the floor where the trash bag sits but, really, it's not impossible. Reply I live in Seattle, which has a bag ban. And I thought I'd miss the bags, but I don't really. We don't use a liner in our kitchen trash because everything mucky goes into recycling or compost (or the scrap bucket for the chickens). So that trash can is dry and clean, usually with just things like the plastic that the pasta comes packaged in. We have a liner in the bathroom trash, but we don't change it out unless it is really gross! So that plastic bag lasts for months. Otherwise, we get enough random bags here and there– with the produce or the laundry bag in a hotel room, to meet all of our other bag "needs". I use a re-usable (and washable) lunch bag for work. I'm glad I don't rely on the bags as much anymore. They were really wastefull. 8 agree Reply Sigh. This breaks my heart a little. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer… but most of these struggles with giving up plastic bags seem (in retrospect, speaking as someone who gave them up years ago) to be such minor stumbling blocks in the long run. Here are some of the solutions we've come up with: (a) Being honest about our trash. The truth is, our tiny waste baskets didn't really fill up with anything but used tissues and some cough drop wrappers. Nothing that would make a trashcan sticky or gross. Did we really need plastic bags for those, just b/c it was a tiny bit easier to empty them? Nope. We still use a tall garbage bag for the kitchen and we get a slightly oversized bag — when we empty the kitchen garbage, we also go around and condense all the other waste baskets into the one single bag. Since we also do composting, there's hardly ever any kind of "gross" waste that ends up in the trash, anyway, even in the kitchen (so we don't have to empty it all that often — composting and recycling make a huge difference!). One bag every month or so is usually enough. If a waste basket does happen to get a bit icky, it's super easy to wash it out once a year, and a small sacrifice to make rather than using 52+ plastic bags for every trash can! (b) Kitty litter. I've had a cat all my life, and I've never used a kitty litter liner, so I don't really get that, honestly. I hear people say it makes it easier to clean… but I don't understand how they keep their cat from simply ripping through the liner and creating a bigger mess that now includes shredded plastic… But I digress. 🙂 When we got our current cat, we switched to compostable (and flushable) Swheat Scoop litter, which made cleaning really easy (what didn't get flushed just got dumped right into the compost, and a few minutes with soap and water were all the litter box needed to be good as new). And starting last month we've begun transitioning the cat away from a litter box entirely, training him to use the toilet (inspired by a post right here on Offbeat Home!) — so our kitty-related waste will soon be reduced to almost nothing. We're super excited! (c) We don't have a dog, but my parents do. They've been using those tiny compostable baggies for doggie doos on walks for years. (The parks in their neighborhood even have them available for free for dog-walkers who forget!) They use the same kind of bag for their countertop compost can, so composting and doggie waste can go right into the pile without having to leave the baggie. (It's extra helpful if you're city does composting as part of their waste management plan, but you can even do composting in a small backyard if you know how to take precautions for animal waste.) Reusing plastic bags made sense when that's all you could get in the stores — but the problem is that no matter how many times you reuse them, eventually they *do* end up in a landfill somewhere. (When you use them for dog poop or to line a waste basket, for instance.) It's true that a small part of the problem is intact bags ending up floating in the water that look like jellyfish, and that can be a choking hazard for wildlife. But the MUCH BIGGER problem is the way that plastic degrades — it breaks down into microscopic nanoparticles invisible to the naked eye. Even plastic bags in landfills do this, seeping into the water supply and — you guess it — eventually making their way to the ocean. No matter how far away you live. (Everyone is part of a watershed.) Scientists now say that there's a "plastic soup" that coats the top surface layer of ocean water almost everywhere in the world, leeching dangerous chemicals into the water that can cause not just suffocation, but also cancer and all sorts of other harmful effects (to ocean life, and to us). I really admire that you have the courage to acknowledge that your love of plastic is actually an addiction, and I hope I don't come across as a lecturing doomsdayer or anything. Maybe you can find some supportive friends to help you make the transition away from plastic, and then you can be a support system for others who need to make the change. 30 agree Reply I just want to say that I really love this comment. It is so polite, informative, and awesome. I don't have to clean up after pets but like you I've noticed that I don't actually need liners in my little trash cans. On trash day I just dump them into the big kitchen trash, which doesn't get very full because we recycle a lot. I'm still stumped about composting in a tiny apartment. Maybe a vermiculture box? 9 agree Reply On composting in a tiny apartment (because composting is great!) – vermiculture is great if you have a good spot for it, but if not: do you have any friends who compost? It's kind of a random question to ask someone, I know, but most people who do compost are pretty committed to it (in my experience) and would not be at all taken aback by someone asking if they could save up their compost and contribute it to their pile every once in a while. Also, if you are a member of a CSA (community supported agriculture) farm, you can always ask them if they compost (they usually do) and ask if you can contribute! 2 agree Reply That is such a great idea! I'll start asking around. Reply Funnily enough, we're currently in Austin which is one of the few places in Texas that *has* banned plastic bags. And I'm the same way – I simply cannot bring myself to use an unlined trash can (especially in the bathroom – eww, feminine hygiene products touching a bare can!) but once the ban was implemented, we slowly ran out. I'm okay throwing my used tissues and napkins now, but cat litter and hygiene products aren't going into an empty can for as long as I'm around. So, in an even more amusing turn of events of exact opposition to your issue, my mom in Hawaii (Oahu, which doesn't yet have a bag ban) has been sending me care packages lined with plastic bags. It is going okay so far. XD In all seriousness, I really, really appreciate the bag bans 95% of the time. Bags were banned in Austin about 6 months after we had moved up, so we got enough time to accumulate bags and adjust to reusable ones. It was actually really nice because it forced me to address environmental issues with hubby (then fiancé) – it's something I care a lot about (as you mention, growing up *very* near to an ocean full of endangered species makes pollution issues *very* potent), but he never grew up using reusable bags and didn't really understand the point. I'm glad we've built in the habit of using reusables, but I'll admit that it would be nice to have juuuust a few more plastic bags in the world for cat litter. XD 3 agree Reply I work at Trader Joe's. You want to know why paper bags are now ten cents? Because people don't want to pay it. We've cut down on the bags we order by HALF. People are bringing in their own bags, and it's wonderful. Here's a blog post I wrote about bag bans: http://waygookincooking.wordpress.com/2013/09/20/so-your-city-has-a-bag-ban-how-to-cope/ Plastic bags are also banned because they can't efficiently be recycled. Los Angeles is already filled with garbage, this ban is an effort to reduce that. 13 agree Reply I love plastic bags too. Besides the ways you mentioned I also have them hanging on several door nobs throughout the house for easy cleanup of all the garbage I find from my 2 year old. Also to put my dirty cloth diapers in., because I can never remember the wetbag but also have a bunch of plastic bags in the diaper bag! No bag ban here yet 2 agree Reply We ditched plastic bags in my household at least 5 years ago, well before my California city's bag ban. We use corn-based biodegradable bags for garbage bags & to hold the droppings scooped out of the litter box. I don't know why ppl complain about the bio-bags being not strong enough — we're only a household of two, so maybe we don't have as much garbage as some, but we've never had a problem where a bio-bag ripped in the few moments it takes to lift the bag from the inside trash bin to the outside bin that we wheel to the curb each week. *shrug* We put wet, goopy stuff in the bio-bags, since we don't have a garden/lawn to use compost on. And we don't buy any particular brand, just whatever I find on sale online (usually on Amazon once or twice a year; I stock up). Seriously, give 'em a good try! Oh, the 1 kind of "normal" plastic bag I still use is ziplocks. Man, I love the hell outta those. I wash & reuse each one at least a dozen times, unless it had something super-greasy or smelly inside. 3 agree Reply Ok, three things….. 1. Thanks form making me feel like less of a weirdo for using plastic bags for everything. My grandma even used to use them to cover her hair when it rained, you know, like a bag lady version of the old lady plastic rain hats. 2. Props for the HEB bag in the first pic. I used to live in Texas and miss HEB. 🙁 and 3. You rolling around in plastic bags à la cartman-with-kyle's-money is freaking hilarious and made me laugh out loud in the middle of an airport. http://youtu.be/pi3pJL-BmU4?t=21s 2 agree Reply BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! OMG, that South Park clip is EXACTLY what I was going for. Totally nailed it. Also, the HEB bags make me laugh too, because I don't think I've ever been in an HEB in my life! Seeing that logo always makes me remember that I'm getting my bags imported. 😉 Reply "Look at Megan and her fancy imported HEB plastic bag. What a snob." 1 agrees Reply HUBRIS! 1 agrees Reply Yep, we use plastic bags for small bins around the house too. I do everything I can to cut down — we recycle our excess (you can take them back to the store here for recycling, which makes it super easy), we use reusable canvas bags for shopping as often as possible, if there's room in the big bag of garbage and the bin garbage isn't too gross I'll dump it from one bag to the other and reuse the bag. I recycle everything I can, to the point of saving up stacks of things that they won't pick up curbside to take in myself. We can't compost right now and we have no garbage disposal, so a plastic bag in the kitchen bin is required. We wash and reuse Ziplocs, too, unless it was used to hold raw meat. If they had the option for separating out burnables we'd do that too. We don't have a cat right now, but when I did composting and flushing kitty litter were not options. The only option was to wrap it up tight in a plastic bag and put it in the middle of your garbage bag, because if it was in a separate container of any kind they'd refuse to pick up ALL your garbage and you'd have to take it to the dump yourself (and they'd fine you). This was when I lived in a town where garbage pick up was every 2-3 weeks. I'd end up with bags of garbage sitting in my front hall while I waited for it to be time again. I'm not sure if the rules in my current town are the same for animal waste (they had the same thing about dog poop bags), but I wouldn't be surprised, seeing as I'm just a few towns over. It's not an issue for us at the moment, but it is something that comes up. Bottom line, we do what we can, but we're still in a place where using plastic bags is a necessity for us. (There's also the question of my mental and physical health vs. the environment — I'm disabled and mentally ill, and I'm the person who cleans the house for various reasons (which I don't mind). The environment is important to me, but what's more important to me is that I can still function on a day-to-day basis and dealing with garbage takes a LOT of my spoons.) Oh, and another thing grocery store plastic bags are useful for — stash a few in your purse/backpack while on a nature walk and clean up the garbage that other people leave behind! I went for my first walk in my new neighborhood yesterday and there was a LOT of trash by the side of the road in the farmlands area. I'll be bringing some bags on my next walk. (And maybe attaching a spike to the end of my cane so stuff is easier to pick up.) Reply Stash a few in your purse/backpack while on a nature walk and clean up the garbage that other people leave behind! Ooh! I love that idea. 3 agree Reply My friend Brandon does this and it makes my heart warm and fuzzy. And inspires me to do the same. I just usually forget a bag and wind up juggling handfuls of trash. Reply I live in Seattle, where we also have a plastic bag ban. I like using reusable cloth bags for groceries since they're so much stronger and I walk everywhere, including to and from the grocery store, but I also ran into the problem of no plastic bags for pets. I moved from Kentucky not long ago, and I always used my grocery bags for cleaning up after my dog there. My solution: produce bags. I'm a vegetarian so I usually have enough produce bags every week, but I usually grab a few extra when I go to the grocery store just in case. Reply sorry if this has been posted before, the comments were tl;dr. but when I'm wearing my grody garden boots and don't feel like taking them off, I wrap the soles in plastic bags so I don't track mud all over the house. Reply When I only had one cat, I used paper lunch bags to scoop used kitty litter into. I don't know it if it's much better for the environment than plastic bags, but I figured it was a step in the right direction. 1 agrees Reply We are a plastic bag free household. I buy these for dog poop. They're compostable, come in a box of 200 that lasts FOREVER, and a good size/sturdy: Dogipot Litter Bags I also always keep two reuseable shopping bags in my purse at all times. I have those little ChicoBags that stuff into themselves and basically take up no space at all my bag. 4 agree Reply I use plastic bags the same way. I was starting to run out in my old town that also had a bag ban, but now I am overfull again. Perhaps we should have a bag drive for you, Megan? Reply Awwww. 🙂 I'm good actually — ever since I instagramed that photo of me frolicking with all my bags, I had an influx of them sent my way! Reply Our supermarket, Wegmans, has a shopping bag recycling bin right in the front of the store and they take the old ones and make new ones…so hopefully most of them don't end up in land fills. I try to use reusable shopping bags (the ones from Aldi's are really hefty and ginormous and fit all of the groceries in one bag). I have never worn one out or had to replace it. As for the kitty litter. I got one of those small Simple Human trashcans with the foot lever and sealed lid and when I scoop, I put it in there during the week and just empty it into the larger trash when I clean out the cat boxes at the end of the week. Since it only has litter scoops in it, it does get gross but you can't smell it when it's closed. The can has its own hard plastic liner bin that I can take out about once a month, fill up with vinegar and baking soda and let it soak, and then once it's all clean, put it back in. Works great, no plastic bags. I typically have just the one kitchen garbage bag and the one with the cat litter and all the rest of the house trash cans each week. I do use the disposable grocery bags in one of my trash cans (the one under the sink), but that's it. 1 agrees Reply Careful! Your shark is about to eat your plastic bag stash! I've finally started using my reusable bags after going to even and walking away with more then I ever wanted/needed. Then in my moving I found that I had three boxes of trash bags exclusively for fitting into my bathroom trash can. I don't remember buying these. I don't know where they came from. But…there they are. Then my work keeps giving out free doggy poop bags and my apartment complex has free doggy poop bags. And I don't have a cat. So basically I have no use for the 20 or so plastic bags I have stashed under my sink. I tried to take them to the library, they always had bins with them for people to load their books into. But apparently the library has taken a BYOB (bring your own bag) stance and didn't want them. So now I'm thinking the food bank might want them. They used to always ask for people to donate them. I do keep getting more because while I'm very good at remembering them for the grocery store I'm pretty terrible about remembering them for running to any other store. Reply Living in a city with a plastic bag ban, I don't really miss them at all. For cat litter, I put it in a small paper bag, like the kind you might carry your lunch in. I then deposit it directly in the outside trash bin. Simple. 2 agree Reply Just adding my two cents for anyone who may find this useful… I use wet bags like this: GroVia Wet Bag For trash in my daughter's room, hung on a hook that she can't reach, and my car. If it gets gross I can just pop it into the wash! I also use these for a 13 gallon trash can and it's a perfect fit!: Planet Wise Diaper Pail Liner In the bathroom and office I use a can with an inner pail that I can wash in the sink if needed. Reply So then you just dump the wet bags into your big outdoor can? I love this idea, but I don't think we can go totally bagless. In our city, I never put loose trash in the can because it always, always ends up on the street. The trash collectors are not careful about getting stuff in the truck and don't care if any blows away. Heaven forbid it is windy on trash day. Please let me know if I'm missing something! 1 agrees Reply Not sure where this rates on the Earth-friendly scale, but if you buy your kitty litter in those giant plastic tubs, you can save an empty one and then use it to scoop into. They actually re-seal pretty tight and keep in the stink. So you can just leave the tub near the boxes, scoop into them until they are full, then toss. No bags! We've tried buying the tub that you refill at the pet store, but the refill always cost more than the new tub. :-/ 1 agrees Reply Categories, dude. Make the most of the bags you have! Minimize trash in the first place, then get creative. There are so many substitutions available in the typical household since, unfortunately, so many products we buy come in plastic packaging. In our house we use the liners from cereal boxes and the plastic bags from processed snacks like chips to clean the litter box, and save bread bags, used zip-locks, and anything similarly non-porous for walking the dog. I've also used the plastic wrapping from toilet paper packages for dog-walking- folded and strategically near outdoor dumpsters and trash cans. I recognize it's a little extreme but we're that concerned about the environmental issues. I'm not saying it'll work for everyone- or that I believe my partner actually follows this system when I'm not around- but it might help some folks in a pinch! If we ever get more consistent access to sustainably packaged food, we'll prob spring for some compostable dog walking bags but we've never run out. 4 agree Reply Ooooooh. Some of these things just blew my mind. The bread bags — fuck yeah! Chip bag to clean the litter box — can do! Awesome pants. Reply When you're ready for compost dog bags, EarthRated makes ones that are veggie based and can be accepted in compost programs that take pet waste! Our city doesn't, so I don't used them, but I use their other normal biodegradable bags and they are awesome. Reply I personally really hate getting plastic bags: partly for the Earth-saving reasons, and partly because they take up so much dang SPACE! I use my cloth bags for pretty much everything, decline bags at every store unless I can't fit the item into my purse (which is one reason why I only own large tote bags), and somehow they still manage to find their way into my home. I don't use them for litter because where I live the city will pick it up for me, and because I don't produce a ton of garbage using them as liners doesn't get rid of them nearly fast enough. I have no idea what to do with them, or even how half of them find their way under my sink! 1 agrees Reply I keep saying that the next BIG industry is going to be garbage mining and extreme recycling. If I had the funds, I'd set up my garbage mining operation and be ready for when recycling technology makes garbage one of our most valuable resources. 2 agree Reply I went through this a bit when the bag ban finally went through in Austin. I was working with a full-time kitten shelter at the time and the owner was extremely nervous about finding a viable solution to replacing the bags she used to scoop litter-several a day/every day. I hoarded lots. (I had used reusable bags primarily for a few years already, but still managed to build up a collection from random things) Even my grandma, who lived in an area without a ban, hoarded them for me. It was a small home-run shelter and she literally spent everything she made on the care of those kittens. I don't even want to think of the additional cost she incurs now having to buy disposable bags (that rip easier and have no handles) from the pet store. I understand why we're wanting to reduce the bags, but it still annoyed me having people around me talking about the main cause being litter. If that were the case, they would be banning beer bottles and fast food packaging around here as that is literally all I see littered around the city. Reply After living with roommates in the past who got plastic bags for EVERY LITTLE THING and then stuffed them in a cabinet in the kitchen until we had 100s of them….I've hated plastic bags for several years and have mostly tried to avoid taking them from stores whenever possible. One of my biggest pet peeves is when restaurants and stores start to bag my stuff without asking – even if it's something tiny or completely carry-able, or even if I'm carrying two reusable bags with me. I hate having to come off as that bitch always asking them not to bag my stuff. However, I've been taking care of a friend's cat this semester while she's out of the country. Let's just say that I appreciate plastic bag's extra uses a lot more now and begrudgingly get them when I can. Overall, I think they can be super useful, but I absolutely hate that so many people waste them or endlessly "collect" them without doing anything with them. And I wish there were better earth-friendly options for dealing with kitty letter (echoes a thousand commenters…). Reply I'm with you, Megan! Plastic bags are awesome for pet owners and small trashcan lovers. Reply I live in the DC area and spend my time in the municipalities with the five-cent-bag-tax, so I occasionally have the bags at home. I do have plenty of reusable bags but sometimes I just need another bag. I popped in to comment now because I just used one of the plastic bags today for a majorly icky clean up job in the apartment ( . . . sick dog . . . enough said). Being able to shove everything in the plastic bag and tie the handles and throw it out made my evening easier. Reply We use ours for trash can liners, litter box cleaning, diaper disposal when not home, soiled bibs, flatware, and/or infant/toddler clothes so they can be stuffed in the diaper bag until we get home. When we have too many saved we take then to a grocery store bah recycling bin or my husband takes them to work for a charity that collects and recycles them Reply Megan, my grandmother gave me the biggest, giantest bag stuffed completely full of plastic bags. We also use them for lining the trash cans, but the rate at which we acquire more bags from groceries far surpasses the rate at which we use them for garbage. I've thought about taking them to a food bank maybe, but I doubt even they would want THIS many bags. Seriously, if you want my plastic bags, PLEASE TAKE THEM. I had to add my email to comment, so you should be able to contact me if you want some Reply I'm laughing at this: "Recently my neighborhood of West Hollywood implemented a ban on these magical plastic bags. While I love the plastic bag ban on Maui (an island-wide ban was implemented back in 2011) because it keeps plastic bags from floating into the very nearby ocean and killing ocean wildlife — I HATE having it in West Hollywood." I just looked at google maps. West Hollywood is approx 12 miles to the Pacific Ocean. My house on Maui was 8 miles to the ocean upwind. Downwind, it was 21 miles to the ocean. 1 agrees Reply I use plastic bags to cover my shoes and carry dirty laundry when traveling. When I get home, those bags become bin liners. We don't have a large kitchen trash, just three small trashcans around the apt; the bedroom and bathroom get emptied about once a month and the kitchen goes maybe twice a week (honestly, the bedroom trash can often just be dumped into another plastic bag, leaving that liner there for the next month). Recycling and composting help keep the trash down a good bit! They are also great padding for packing and mailing. I do support recycling and reusing plastic bags as much as possible! Reply I admit I use them as trash bags in our small containers and even to line our compost box. I use them to take home wet swim clothes and to contain my shoes in a suitcase… But totally ditch them for pet waste! I'm a professional dog walker, so I know what I'm talking about here. I'm super loyal to EarthRated poop bags. Unscented is the best. A box of 900 bags and 2 dispensers will set you back $35 and last forever. I have never had a leak with these, but I've definitely had a grocery bag poop fail, so gross. They also offer a truly compostable bag made of veggies that can be disposed of in a municipal compost environment where pet waste is accepted. Reply Join the conversation Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment No-drama comment policy Part of what makes the Offbeat Empire different is our commitment to civil, constructive commenting. 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