What are you favorite offbeat or non-aluminum-based deodorants? #Style & Grooming#advice#beauty products#hygiene#odors October 21 | Offbeat Editors I was wondering if we could talk about deodorant? I sweat a lot, but I try to avoid aluminum-based deodorants/antiperspirants. I like Tom's of Maine for non-sweaty days. But I'm a teacher and I usually resort to Secret or something else standard on the days that I'm teaching (teacher pit stains are the worst!). Sometimes even that doesn't cut it, but I really hated the "clinical strength" over-the-counter deodorant that I tried. I would love to hear about other Homies' antiperspirant solutions — particularly of the offbeat or non-aluminum based variety. -Maryanna Reporter Name * Reporter Email * Original text Enter the original text here. Edited text* Enter your suggested copyedit here. Notes You can add a note for the editor here. * Required information. Fix Typo PREVIOUS The solar-powered zombie lawn lantern is a thing, and it's awesome NEXT Why every home needs a terramundi money pot Toggle comments [ 107 ] Tried a bunch. This is the only one that has worked for me: http://www.kissmyface.com/natural-body-products/item/129/Liquid-Rock-Roll-On-Sport 5 agree Reply I came here to say pretty much exactly this. I bounce between the lavender and the no-scent. (I'm the worst hippie, with my patchouli-hating ways.) It's the only one that's ever worked for me. It's a deodorant, not an anti-persperant, of course. :/ I'll have to read through the other comments, but I was always under the impression that you couldn't get non-aluminum anti-persperant. 2 agree Reply I have honestly never found a natural deodorant that keeps me from sweating. I've heard other people say good things about Crunchy Betty's recipe, but I have yet to make and try it. I use Kiss My Face deodorant roll on, the salt based kind, and it works to keep me from being smelly but I still sweat. 5 agree Reply There's this list of products from Adria Vasil, Ecoholic: http://www.nowtoronto.com/columns/ecoholic.cfm?content=193175 I've been meaning to try out some of the better rated ones, but haven't yet, so I can't speak from personal experience, but I DO love her books on homecare and bodycare, and many of the homecare product reviews were right on the mark. I trid plain baking soda, which I thought was working great until I looked and realized I'd broken out into a rash Guess my skin`s too sensitive. I've also tried one from JĀSÖN that's not too bad, but it's also a non-sweaty-day kind of protection. I found a Soft-N-Dri that`s aluminum-free that I've been using for sweaty days this month, but the fragrance is really heavy for me (I have allergies) so I need to try something else. Might finally try out some of the ones in those reviews! 0 agree Reply Lenna – Try mixing the baking soda with corn starch. Pure baking soda is too much for anyone. Start with a 50/50 mix and tweak it from there. 7 agree Reply Or just corn starch without any baking soda. 0 agree Reply I know you already mentioned it… but I ONLY use Tom's of Maine and I specifically look for the ones containing hops. It withstood the test of 2 hour rowing practice on ergs and kept me smelling good through that. I have to rub it over a few times, though. Also, for me personally, if I don't shave my pits every other day, I start to stink no matter the deodorant. 2 agree Reply I gave up shaving years ago, and I've found that to get unshaven underarms clean when they have a sweaty smell I need to wash them more than once when bathing. Preferably with a couple of different types of soap or body wash. (Varying the type seems to help for some reason.) 0 agree Reply That's really interesting. I actually smelled a lot worse when I shaved under my arms. Hm. 5 agree Reply I shave and I have to scrub so hard. I often find that I scrub my pits with a nail brush and soap for 60 seconds, maybe even 2 minutes, and get out, dry myself off, and an hour or two later, without sweating, I stink. It's a nightmare. 1 agrees Reply Maybe 1 or 2 of these tips will help? I believe it's certain types of bacteria that make your armpits actually stink. (Not to be gross, but everyone's entire body is covered in bacteria, and most of it is good for you. So don't feel bad!) Harsh scrubbing might actually make tiny breaks in your skin which can be places where bacteria can hang on, so maybe don't scrub as hard? Let the soap sit on your skin for several minutes though to give it time to work. And use different types of soap- I alternate between a couple. And after exercise I tend to use an a harsher soap with antibacterial agent in it- read the label and look up the ingredients. The hippie in my doesn't want to use soap with an antibiotic in it, but the nose on my face doesn't want me to stink, so I compromise and use it every couple of days instead of every day. After showering, make sure you give your armpits time to dry. And remember that your towel can have bacteria on it, so if you have a particularly stinky day, get a fresh towel. If you wear a robe, make sure you wash that as often as you wash your towel. It's also better to put the deodorant on and let it dry for a bit before you put on your clothes. Sometimes I take a tissue and wipe off the top layer of deodorant on the stick so anything from my skin doesn't sit on the deodorant. And sometimes it's your clothes that the odor and bacteria stick to that makes your clean armpits stink. I sometimes soak my shirts that have deodorant residue or armpit stinks residue in water with detergent plus a little Borax for several hours to days. That really gets the odor out. Those are all things that have either worked for me or my friends, so hopefully a couple of them are new for you and will work for you. 6 agree Reply Thanks. I have noticed it sometimes seems like it is the clothes even more than me. It's not all their fault, but clearly partly sometimes. It's like my sweat reactivates some stink in them. I'll get some borax and give that a try. I had notice if I leave the soap on for several minutes, it helps. I'll keep trying that. I'm not comfortable with anti-bacterial soap, but maybe a tea tree or lavender or thyme oil soap would work. Thanks! 2 agree I have noticed that I have much less in the way of armpit funk since I stopped shaving, though I realize that isn't everyone's cup of tea. I was also way smellier when I used conventional deodorant, especially if I'd forget to put it on after having used it the day before. And during what I figure was a "detox" period between using "regular" deodorant and the all natural hippie kind…whew, man, that was rough. I agree with the other commenter that you're probably scrubbing too hard. Shaving already creates little tiny cuts, and the armpit is a pretty delicate area, so I think going at it with a nail brush might be part of your problem. (Making things cozy for bacteria instead of scrubbing it away.) One thing that I know works is to use alcohol or witch hazel on your armpits both before and after you shower. My dad and my significant other both use this method, wiping down with alcohol (SO uses witch hazel) in the morning before the shower, after the shower and at night before bed. Neither of them wears any kind of deodorant at all. Both of them work physically demanding jobs. And neither of them has armpit funk. This was also what my mother did when she was on chemo and told no deodorant at all…and it worked for her too, though she's back on the Toms of Maine now that she's done with treatment. I've also found that Tea Tree oil is great for killing any kind of odor causing bacteria. They sell a tea tree cream in the feminine hygiene section of most health food stores that is pretty amazing for under the arms. I use it before deodorant in the summer, let it sink in and dry, and then use my hippie roll on and it works very well. I wouldn't put the straight up oil on your pits, since it can be harsh, but if you mixed it with a carrier oil (or even tried tea tree soap) that might help you out. 3 agree Reply My deodorant actually has witch hazel as a primary ingredient, along with baking soda. But I will give wiping my pits with it a try. Tea tree oil is a good idea. I'll see if I can get/make some sort of tea tree treatment for my pits. Maybe tea tree soap also. I didn't realize scrubbing would be making things worse. I was just trying to scrub the stink away, but it hasn't been working, so I'll try stopping. Not shaving my pits isn't an option for me. My partner is really not a fan of really hairy pits, and since I prefer it that way too, I'm happy to indulge his request that I keep my pits shaved. I think it's funny how much it depends on body chemistry. My partner used to work construction, and works out a lot, and he can come home from work or a workout not smelling at all. If he smells, it's someone else's sweat from wrestling. I don't think he owns deodorant, and he really doesn't need it. He just doesn't get stinky and sweaty. Thanks for the advice! 2 agree Most mainstream products (like Secret)are antiperspirants and deodorants meaning no smell and no sweat. With natural deodorants, you will still sweat but there shouldn't be any staining or smell. Personally, I have found that Jason's Tea Tree scented deoderant works pretty well. It lasts all day without multiple applications. Yeah, I was still sweaty (which is natural) but I wasn't smelly at all. 2 things though: After showering and shaving, pat dry the armpits, then apply lotion. Let dry for 2 or more hours before applying the natural deodorant. If not, it can result in a really bad rash (which sucks… I've had it). You can also make your own deodorant. Check out this vid for instructions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DhdkO49TfY 2 agree Reply I've found that only the lavendar Tom's deo works best for me, with a combination of not shaving every day. ALSO I recently shot a wedding and a girl told me that she's allergic to one of the chemicals used in air conditioning — when she's not around A/C, she doesn't sweat a ton. When she is, she does. I noticed that when I was in the room with the A/C I was sweatier, but when I was outside I was fine. I have NO CLUE if that's something worth investigating, but it's worth noting that I am always sweatier indoors with A/C — I used to live in Alabama, and it would be soooo incredibly embarrassing. I have noticed since moving to Oregon (and living in a home that doesn't even have A/C) I don't have the same problem. I don't know if it really comes down to A/C or not, but could maybe be worth looking into..? 0 agree Reply very interesting about the A/C thing… I am also more sweaty in air conditioning than I am in just the normal outdoor air – hot or not. I've generally attributed it to acclimating myself to the temperatures, I try to spend a lot of time out doors so I get used to the ambient temperatures as the seasons change. Throw in the sudden 'shock' of stepping into 70 degrees from 90, and my body doesn't seem to know what it wants to do for temperature regulation – so I get cold and clammy. But of course, that doesn't really help the original poster with being a teacher… as for that, I have no real suggestions other than being mindful of natural fabrics vs polyester/acrylic/rayon – chemical deoderants tend to make me sweat more than if I were to put nothing on my skin. 1 agrees Reply I'd think it might have more to do with your body temperature being all confused than an allergy that manifests itself by sweating…but who knows. A/C makes me feel miserable. My sinuses hurt, I'm almost always too cold, even if it's set at a temp like… 72 degrees, which is what I put the heat at in winter. When we had A/C I only ever used it to get the house down from 95 to like, 83. I think human bodies adapt themselves to the seasons to some extent, and when your body knows it's summer and suddenly you're freezing, it gets all confused. (I handle cold badly in general though… as soon as it's down to about 60 degrees, I'll be fine when I'm out and about, but when I come into a nice warm building I will immediately want to go to sleep. I figured out one year that my body temperature actually goes down a notch or two whenever I'm out in cool weather. I'm like a friggin turtle.) 4 agree Reply Agreed. AC is bogus. And where I live, it is pretty much impossible to live without it. All summer long it's a miserable switch between HOT outside and FREEZING inside wherever I go, and it does seem to make me sweat more. Also, I'm that person who sits in the AC at home in sweatpants and a blanket, while everyone else walks around in shorts and complains because I have the thermostat set too high. 4 agree Reply This is me too!! I'm always wearing two jackets at work because I'm ALWAYS freezing – no matter the season I'm cold!! I was starting to think there was a problem with my blood pressure or circulation – but all's well according to the doctor… Glad to know I'm not the only person who's always cold!! 1 agrees Reply Being cold all the time CAN be a sign of a wonky thyroid gland…but I think it's also just one of those things that some people have to deal with. 1 agrees I'm the OP, and yes, my natural tendency to sweat is definitely exacerbated by the switch between hot outdoor weather and cold indoor AC. I don't know if it's from the AC itself or from the fast temperature shift, but I am definitely thankful that things are cooling off outside and the AC is off these days in my neck of the woods. 0 agree Reply It depends so much upon your own, individual body chemistry. I use a salt/mineral deodorock followed by a dash of essential oil with pheromones. It keeps me smelling good all day and I don't sweat noticeably. The biggest problem I had was during the "detox" period after going off of conventional anti-perspirants. It took about a week for my pits to stop being super funky and sweaty, but now I don't have a problem at all. 1 agrees Reply How did you deal with work and a social life during the detox period? (Geez, that's such an on-beat question of me!) 2 agree Reply You could try a body powder, basically with 2 parts cornstarch, 1 part baking soda and some essential oils or herbs to make it smell nice. Tea tree oil is especially awesome. 1 agrees Reply I am still mainstream, but thinking about switching. Kris Carr just did a comparison on her website: http://kriscarr.com/blog-video/kris-carr-natural-deodorant-smackdown/ 1 agrees Reply If you're looking for antiperspirants specifically, they're all going to have aluminum in them because that is what prevents you from sweating. If you want something without aluminum in it then you're just looking at deodorants so you'll likely still sweat. Though good deodorants can still help a lot with the smell, staining etc. I use Tom's of Maine myself, the deodorant is OK but I occasionally need to use their antiperspirant on bad days. 6 agree Reply I've been using this recipe to make my own for a while. I like it, when I do sweat I do not stink. http://bonzaiaphrodite.com/2009/08/natural-homemade-deodorant/ If I haven't gotten around to making a fresh batch I use this: EO Organic Lavender Hand Sanitizer Spray Which cuts the funk right out and can also be used as… hand sanitizer. I rarely use hand sanitizer, but I bought mini bottle of this kind to take to Bonaroo 4-5 years ago. During a real funky day I sprayed some on my pits and it worked shockingly well. 1 agrees Reply Here's the thing – there is a sizable difference between deodorant and antiperspirant. Most conventional products that you're buy in a drugstore are both – they actually prevent you from sweating and provide a pleasant odor. However, your initial question seems to be about doing both. A purely deodorant product probably is not going to keep you from sweating – so those pit stains will likely still be there. Deodorants are largely geared towards preventing the odor that can go with sweat. Natural antiperspirants usually rely on "mineral crystals" to provide the anti-sweat properties. However, many of those crystals contain some degree of aluminum as well – so if you are particular about trying to avoid aluminum in all its incarnatons, you need to be very careful. Some natural antiperspirants also are basically astringents. They work off the theory that closing the ducts basically prevents sweat. However, these tend to be pretty harsh and drying on skin, so they have their own issues. I've had a lot of sucess with dusting powders. Some people swear by cornmeal and/or baking soda for helping them not sweat as much. But if you think you're sweating excessively, you might want to consider talking to a doctor about possible options. Excessive sweating can be a medical condition, so it's not something to be ashamed over. I consider myself a heavy sweater, and I had to get over it pretty quickly. 4 agree Reply I'm one of those baking soda people. Tom's of Maine and another random Whole Foods (lemon scented!) brand kept leaving me sweaty and smelly. There were days I felt like the deodorant initiated the sweat! So I checked online and decide to give baking soda a try. I don't sweat nearly as much when I pat soda onto my pits, and there's almost never a smell. 0 agree Reply My hubby sweats a lot. So much he brings extra shirts when driving longer than an hour because his back sweats up. He went to the doctor and got prescribed some deodorant which it's primary ingredient is Aluminum Chloride, second being alcohol. I assume it is just as bad for you as Aluminum, but I can say the prescribed amount is VERY VERY MINIMAL! My husband uses just a dab the night before, and when he does that he usually doesn't bother with deodorant the next day. 0 agree Reply I use Dr. Organics Manuka Honey deodorant… I have tried their Aloe Vera one but I find that I can sometimes smell (when sweating heavily) however the Manuka honey one smells of honey when I sweat. As Ashley said, I would be cautious of using Salt deodorants as most are made from Alum salt, they contain aluminium. So it may have the same (not 100% proven) negative effects as standard aluminum deos. On a similar topic: I've found that since I switched from the standard deo/anti to a more natural one, I no longer suffer with swollen glands in my armpits. I think its due to my glands not being blocked up by the anitpersperant 2 agree Reply Exactly your last sentiment. Trying to stop yourself from sweating isn't actually healthy. It's a naturally occurring bodily reaction to heat. It's bacteria that causes the smell, hence why things like tea tree oil work so well. Using something powder based helps to soak up the excess moisture, but anti-persperants really aren't that good for. 1 agrees Reply I make my own deodorant with coconut oil/baking powder/shea butter/cornstarch, and it actually works wonderfully to keep me from stinkin', but it's not an antiperspirant at all. Honestly though, I haven't noticed sweating *that* much more than when I was using Secret, which tells me the Secret sucked anyway. The only thing that actually worked well for me was Certain-Dri and that's pretty powerful stuff. I'm pretty sure that the aluminum is THE ingredient that prevents sweat, so I don't think there's really much of a good way to make an antiperspirant without it, sadly :-/ I settle for a deo and shooting a hair/hand dryer at my armpits periodically. (Gotta watch the coconut oil though, it'll stain certain fabrics if you put too much on. Little dab'll do ya. Overall though, it stains less than regular storebought deodorant, so that's nice. Doesn't yellow white shirts either- apparently that's caused more by the deo ingredients than the sweat. Who knew?) 3 agree Reply It's actually the antiperspirant/aluminum that causes yellow staining! If you use commercial "just deodorant" you don't get staining even with sweat. 2 agree Reply I hate TOM deodorants. I don't do multiple applications, and I end up stinking. Here is a good review I have used: http://www.xojane.com/beauty/8-natural-deodorants-that-dont-stink After trying many. Alveral aloe and almonds works great for me. 2 agree Reply Ditto. Tom's deodorant is useless. 4 agree Reply I have tried them all and found arrowroot powder to be the best for absorbing moisture. Nothing is as good as aluminum, so you have to decide if you can sacrifice that. 1/4 cup arrowroot 1/4 cup baking soda 5 tbs coconut oil 20 drops essential oil (try orange, Eucalyptus, thyme, lavender or tea tree) Mix it all together, It is easier if the oil is melted down and then pour into a mold or an empty deodorant container that you can reuse. Or even just a glass jar like a baby food jar and apply with your fingers. IMHO this recipe works better than Tom's or any other natural brand at the health food store. 4 agree Reply Not a deodorant suggestion, but a clothing one as you are trying out new deodorants: Have you seen the styles of bat or dolman sleeves? There's lots of extra room for ventilation, and it's almost impossible to get pit stains on them. Other things that work for me are black or other dark tops. You can also wet the fabric as a test to see how noticeable the color change is. And a very light weight jacket will also hide it without being too hot, most of the time. I don't teach very often, but when I do I try to wear one of those styles. It's kind of hard to reach up and write on the board if you are worried about pit stains, so I get your problem! 5 agree Reply I second the dark tops sentiment, and add trying tops that have prints in multiple colors. It's much harder to see pit stains when there are flowers (or shapes) competing for your visual attention. 2 agree Reply Tom's doesn't work for me, and I tried making my own for a while with mixed success. Most recently I ordered some Funk Butter from Oyin Handmade, which is an awesome company mostly focused on natural kinky/curly hair products and I am loving it. I got the black cedar fig scent -it smells amazing, and is working very well. Plus it's called FUNK BUTTER. awesome. http://www.oyinhandmade.com/body/freshen/funk-butter-natural-deodorant-192.html 1 agrees Reply This looks great, as does the Crunchy Betty deodorant and a couple other hand-made brands. I am simply not equipped to make my own (at the moment), and this seems to have most of the ingredients that people have recommended mixing together. I read an article that said Oyin Handmade is going to have a small line in Target in 2014 (while retaining full control over their products and ingredients). 0 agree Reply I was worried about the effects of aluminum, so I switched to a natural deodorant and broke out in the worst itchy rash ever. I tried switching natural deodorants and had the same problem. Now, I was training for a triathlon in the summer heat, but as soon as I resolved the rash with some corn starch, I switched back to regular ole antiperspirant and the problem went away. If I forget to put it on one day before working out, same problem. So there are some great natural products out there, but if you're working out and have sensitive skin, at least I found I needed to stick with the aluminum stuff. 1 agrees Reply I definitely second this comment. I tried being a good hippie and trying out several natural options, but after several rashes I just gave up. Plus I still stank while using them. I guess everyone has a different chemistry. So I still use good ole commercial deodorant/antiperspirant (Degree). Is it offbeat? Is it environmentally friendly? No. But I find it more important to be courteous to those around me. I'm all for the ethics of the natural movement, and I do my best. But I don't beat myself up for drawing the line at deodorant and toothpaste (as an aside on toothpaste, I work in the dental field. Say what you will about fluoride, but I'm sick of seeing kids whose parents don't let them use it come in with all their teeth rotting. Not trying to be disrespectful to the anti-fluoride opinion, but that's just my direct observation). 6 agree Reply I found that I break out with the natural deodorants too. For me it seems to be the witch hazel that causes the problem. 0 agree Reply This is really interesting to me! (Sorry, I enjoy making natural products at home and kinda geek out about these things…) Sometimes people react to baking soda, so that could also be it. Maybe that is what happened? It also seems odd that witch hazel would cause irritation, as it is usually very calming to the skin. Maybe some sort of processing changed it's properties. I have also heard of people almost "detoxing" when they switch away from conventional antipersperants to natural ones. Your pits job is to carry out all sort of pollutants from your body, and when those holes are "plugged up" with aluminum lots of crap is going to build up in your skin. Here's a great post on switching to natural deodorants and detoxing: http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2013/09/13/are-your-armpits-an-exit-ramp/ "It's counterintuitive to many that doing something good could cause something bad to happen – and it would still be a good thing. Detoxing is often like that though. You're trying to fight body odor with a new deodorant, and instead of smelling good you smell worse. Maybe you get a little rash or irritation on your armpits. That's usually the nail in the coffin of a new product: "It's just not for me; it didn't work; it caused problems." People give up (raises hand…and catches a whiff!) In the case of underarm detox though, most say you should just "work through it." Additional stink is your body getting rid of toxins via the exit ramp of your armpit, and often times even a little rash is either detox as well or the body adjusting to the pH of the baking soda, rather than your body saying, "This is not working for me!" I've read many blogs full of comments about how homemade deodorant caused red bumps. People think it's just an irritation issue and that baking soda is the culprit. It's likely a temporary armpit detoxing response because of the baking soda drawing out the gunk your 'pits have been accosted with for years, or potentially a pH problem, which can be balanced out by simply sipping ACV mixed with water internally and/or misting it directly on the 'pits. (Wardee solved it by reducing the baking soda in her DIY deodorant, but who knows? Maybe time and detoxing helped too.)" 2 agree Reply Crystal Essence has a roll on with scent which I've been happy with for several years now. My Rite Aid only carries the Lavender White Tea scent, so that's the one I use. I'm not super sweaty or stinky, but I'd never been happy with a natural deodorant until I found this one. I'm allergic to something in conventional antiperspirants. I've never figured out what, but I get a rash every time I try to go back. 2 agree Reply I just switched to the Lavender White Tea Crystal Essence a couple weeks ago! I was looking to move away from conventional deodorants and found that Tom's didn't work for me (and the variety I'd purchased STILL contained aluminum). So far I've been really really pleased with the Crystal Essence. Like the person in the original question, I'm also a teacher so I was really concerned because high schoolers have no filter, but so far so good! 3 agree Reply THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS The Crystal Essence lavender has been my favorite deodorant for over a year now. I tried making the switch away from aluminum deodorant in 2010… I tried the Trader Joe brand, Tom's, and Arm and Hammer. They all worked for minimal sweat conditions, but wouldn't last. The Crystal Essence is the BEST. I sweat a TON, even though I live in California (hello, dry heat), and even when I took this baby to New Jersey in July, I was fine (just had to re-apply more often). The unscented flavor (with the pink lid) is not as nice as the lavender flavor, IMO, but the lavender scent works great and I highly recommend it! 1 agrees Reply I just wanted to post a PS for anyone wanting to try Crystal Essence– I do find that it works really well (it can even hold up during most of my workouts), but I HAVE to start with clean armpits for it to work. If I skip a shower and just put on the deodorant in the morning, I will be a little bit smelly by the end of the day. Washing with actual soap and water before application seems to be the trick for me. 0 agree Reply I lived in South Carolina 7-8 years ago and concluded that no matter what antiperspirant I wore, I would still sweat and I would still stink. It's just too hot and humid there. I switched to a salt rock like the Crystal Essence, and it has worked well for me since then. Several months after I changed, I began looking for a new job and my mom gave a small container of Secret because she was afraid that I would get stinky during job interviews. Interestingly, I found that wearing the Secret again made me more sweating and more stinky. If I ever worry that I may not smell great, I swipe my underarms with rubbing alcohol. The odor is from bacteria, as noted above, and the rubbing alcohol kills it. Try the salt rocks or roll-ons. It's worth it! As a bonus, the actual salt blocks last nearly forever. 0 agree Reply Crunchy Betty! I get her Kokomo coconut oil deoderant and it is awesome. It isn't an antiperspirant, but it is the only thing that has helped with how stinky I get (I swear I walk out of the shower smelly). It has baking soda in it and some people are sensitive to that. If you send her a message she will make a version for you without it. http://www.etsy.com/listing/108358726/kokomo-cream-deodorant-handmade-creamy 0 agree Reply I don't know if this is of concern to you but Tom's was bought by Colgate Palmolive in 2006. I personally don't use any of their products. Anyways, I use and have loved for a long time now Kiehls tubed lotion deodorant. And now I feel like a dummy because I see its also marketed as an antiperspirant and does have Aluminum Clorohydrate :-/ dag nabit Well, if you're into making your own (which I'm now going to do) this Kiehls stuff has some good starters (minus the stupid aluminum- grrr) like linseed and orange extracts. Man, I swear it wasn't always an antiperspirant. That's it, I'm making my own from now on. 2 agree Reply Dress shields – it's the only guarantee against pit sweat appearance. 2 agree Reply Lavilin roll-on deodorant (http://www.lavilin.com/products/deodorant/roll-on-deodorant.html) is the only deodorant I've used so far that I don't need to reapply regularly. This stuff is a godsend. 0 agree Reply Anastasia – much agreed! I know people who prefer Lavilin's cream-based solution, but I opt for the roll-on. It's easier! 0 agree Reply This post is so helpful that I had to come back for a follow-up. I switched from Lavilin roll-on (the container is small and runs out quickly, plus the cost was a bit high considering how frequently it needed to be replaced) to Lavanila (http://www.lavanila.com/Deodorant-_c_57.html). It's also all-natural, smells great, and even longer lasting than Lavilin. The vanilla scent is subtle and for me, the stronger scent is the one featured on the label. I've tried the blackberry one and I've been really impressed by how strong it is for a natural deodorant. 0 agree Reply I've just started using Sanex Zero in the UK: http://www.sanexzero.co.uk/ or http://www.sanex.co.uk/sanex-zero-extra-effective-0 It seems to do the job, although I think it's more of a deodorant rather than antiperspirant. I've been sweaty today so I got paranoid, but when my fiancé sniffed my pits he said I don't smell at all It's aluminium chlorohydrate free, which I've heard is potentially breast cancer causing. Here's the relevant medical journal: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16045991 0 agree Reply Sorry I dont know very much about this , is POTASSIUM ALUM (listed in the Sanex ingredients) not aluminium? 0 agree Reply Sorry my mistake, it does contain aluminium. It doesn't contain aluminium chlorohydrate which is the compound I was worried about for the cancer reasons. I don't know what is bad about other aluminium products. 0 agree Reply Yep, the alums are a problem too—that's why I won't use any of the crystal salts. I like the Herbalix deodorants best, and they last foreeeeeever. My favorite's the geranium scent, though the spicy one (Tropical Cove) works well too. http://www.herbalix.com/store/deodorants/cat_14.html 0 agree Reply Geez, what a guy!! 0 agree Reply I highly recommend Lush's T'eo Deodorant. It smells good and works well to netralize odors. You might need to reapply a bit more often if you are sweating a lot, but it works quite well. Just be sure to apply it when your underarms are mostly dry. If you get the bar wet, you'll need to break off a layer to get it to go on properly again. A while ago I used Tom's of Maine Natural Long Lasing Deodorant Roll-On (the unscented kind). I recently found a tube I hadn't finished using, and tried using it again. It worked well, but this time I discovered it had an undesired side effect, it made my underarm skin peel. We're talking serious peeling, sheets of skin like a sunburn. I looked on the internet to see if I could find anything about this, and it seems that peeling skin is a common side effect of one of their ingredients: zinc ricinoleate. It also makes some people itchy and causes a burning sensation. It took weeks for my skin to get fully back to normal after I stopped using this deodorant. So, be cautious with any deodorant that contains zinc ricinoleate if you don't know your reaction to it. 0 agree Reply I meant to include a link to Lush's T'eo Deodorant: http://www.lushusa.com/T%27eo/00433,en_US,pd.html?start=3&cgid=deodorants 0 agree Reply Ooh, I kinda wanna try the lush deodorant. Look how cool it looks! 2 agree Reply Thanks for all of these great suggestions so far. There are so many options! 0 agree Reply Poofy Organics works great for me: http://www.poofscloset.com/servlet/the-642/*Poofy-Organics*-MAX-DEO/Detail also use home made with arrow root powder, cornstarch, coconut oil, and baking soda 0 agree Reply I personally like Herban Cowboy deodorant. They make a stick version for girls too that smells like flowers. I'm not very sweaty, but I do teach yoga and don't want to be stinky. This seems to do the trick. http://www.herbancowboy.com/ 0 agree Reply It's not an anti-perspirant, but as a deodorant I use Alvera roll-on. I really like the aloe and almonds one. I have the same issue as you, though. I sweat A LOT, and I have a weird imbalance where I sweat more under my right arm, so there is usually a mark there even when I'm not warm and there is not mark under the other arm, heh. I also work with kids, teaching outdoor education. When I'm around little kids I don't care, really. If they point out that I am sweating, I just say, "Yep! That happens!" If it's older kids (like, 10 and up), though, and I know it'll affect how they interact with me more, I honestly just wear a black shirt so the marks don't show. Wish I could be more help, heh. I've tried all sorts of natural antiperspirants but they've never worked for me. 0 agree Reply I am allergic to the Secret brand of deodorant, so I've had to resort to other brands. A few brands I have used include Crystal Essence (which contains no aluminum) and Lady Speed Stick. However, I will say that Lady Speed Stick has worked best for me. 0 agree Reply The reason I stopped using aluminium is because it blocks your pores and keeps the toxins in – and all antiperspirants are going to do that. I agree with so many others here that after just a short while, I sweated so much less and even stank so very much less once I switched to natural deodorant. I do still get a bit sweaty in summer – but less than I did on antiperspirants(!), and I'd rather choose dark or flowy tops than risk retaining toxins. I found Lavanila to be really good. 2 agree Reply My husband and I use milk of magnesium. (Yes, the stuff you find in drugstores) It was a little tricky to use at first, but you just have to rub it in a little and you are done. I don't remember where we got the idea to use it from, but we have no problems with B.O. like we use to after a long summer's day with the regular deodorant. I doesn't leave any residue if you rub it in enough/wait for it to dry before putting on a shirt. Plus you can't argue with $2 a bottle. 0 agree Reply I'm so grateful for this discussion! So many deodorants to try. I've used Tom's and/or Crystal Essence for a few years now and they tend to wear off throughout the day and certainly don't last through a workout. Lavanila had nice scents but didn't work as good as Tom's or CE for me. I have to say the milk of magnesium suggestion makes sense. It is used by some makeup artists to prime the face and prevent oils from coming through foundation. 0 agree Reply I use Herbal Magic Roll On Deodorant by Home Health Products For Life. It's the most ridiculous name, I know. It works pretty well. I'm just a very smelly person, and it works really quite well at cutting down the stink. Doesn't help at all with the sweat, but I don't want to use aluminum (even the amount of aluminum in the salt-crystal deodorants), so it's good enough for me. It's mainly a baking soda, witch hazel, and aloe based deodorant, and I'm really happy with the ingredients list. 0 agree Reply I developed an allergy to antiperspirants a couple years ago and was forced to switch to aluminum-free deodorants. I tried TOMS and Jason brands first, and they were terrible (I retried them later, and still had bad luck with them.) For a while I was using an Adidas deodorant and then my grocery store started stocking an Arm & Hammer aluminum-free deodorant and so far I love it the most. I still carry an extra one with me in my purse, though. I get sweaty at work and need to refresh it sometimes. 2 agree Reply Arm & Hammer is amazing! Their various types have similar color schemes, and not all are aluminum-free, so look for the Essentials Deodorant with Natural Deodorizers (cap sticker says aluminum and paraben free). It uses baking soda and plant extracts to keep your smell at bay, and even though it's not an antiperspirant I find I sweat much less with this than with other deodorants. I've been using it for a couple of years now and still love their Fresh scent. I keep an extra stick with me wherever I go just in case, but I rarely need to refresh it. It's also really inexpensive, and while it was hard to find when I started using it I'm starting to see it in more and more groceries and pharmacies. http://www.armandhammer.com/personal-care/antiperspirants-deodorants/Products/arm-and-hammer-essentials-solid-deodorant-fresh.aspx In contrast, I have tried Tom's with middling success– even if you like it I'd recommend avoiding their lemongrass scent, as it smells nice in the container but is amplified by your body heat until it smells like a candy factory. My sister and I have also tried the Crystal body deodorant stick (like a salt stick, essentially), and were disappointed with it– it controls the smell for a short time, but we both sweat like crazy while using it and pretty much canceled it out. 0 agree Reply whoa, i'm surprised nobody has mentioned my two favorites: earth science brand tea tree and lavender, and salubritas rosemary sage. proof that they work? i spent 4 years as a river guide and a wilderness guide with little opportunity to bathe. i can't say i never stink, but these are the only deodorants i've used for 15+ years, and they definitely work well. i've tried the toms and the jason brands and found them to be too slimy or too dry and wholly ineffective. good luck! http://earthsciencenaturals.com/product/245/Deodorant-Tea-Tree-%26-Lavender-2.45-oz.-.html http://www.salubritasbody.com/Products.html 1 agrees Reply I just commented about the Earth Sciences tea tree & lavender! favourite forever 0 agree Reply Believe it or not, I use coconut oil only as deodorant, and it works quite well! To be fair, I am not a very sweaty person. If it doesn't seem to be enough for some reason I sometimes mix in some baking soda, but usually coconut oil on its own works just fine. 0 agree Reply I do the same thing. Just a little coconut oil, I leave it on for a few minutes, and then blot any excess off so it doesn't get on my clothes. It works awesomely well. If I ever try to go back to antiperspirant I always regret it. 0 agree Reply adidas makes a cotton based deodorant for women. its not sticky like toms. 0 agree Reply Tom's makes me break out in the worst rash. My skin peels off and I got hard, cyst-like bumps that were really painful! On top of that, it wore off so quickly! I am now using Soapwalla Deodorant Cream and am hoping we have a long future together! LOL I wore nothing for two weeks to let my skin heal after the Tom's dilemma (it was a long and smelly couple of weeks) and after 1 week using Soapwalla I have no skin peeling or rash. I do have some tiny pimple like bumps under one of my arms, but I can't tell if it's from the new deodorant or just coincidence. It's definitely not painful like the rash from Tom's. The application of Soapwalla (with your fingers) takes some getting used to if you are a life-long deodorant stick user, but it was only weird the first couple of times. Now it's no biggie! You can check it out here: http://www.etsy.com/listing/35641572/deodorant-cream?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_listing_promoted&utm_campaign=bath_and_beauty_low&gclid=CKevqLPSqroCFcZFMgodmVAAKQ Good luck! 0 agree Reply It's a bit pricey, however, the Lavanila Healthy Deodorant is the shit! http://www.lavanila.com I've used the Vanilla Lavender scent and it was the best natural deodorant I've tried (and I've tried quite a few!) I have CP which means I expend energy doing things that seem easy to others, and in general I expend about 10x the energy of a non disabled person. This leads to a lot of stinky sweat. The Lavanila kept me smelling fresh throughout the day, though I did usually apply it a second time if it was too warm out. Hope this helps! 2 agree Reply Aluminum deodorants usually make me itchy, so I've gone through a slew of all natural ones: Arm & Hammer Natural, Tom's of Maine, some sort of herbal one in a yellow stick, Dessert Essence (with Tea Tree Oil), the crystal one that's basically a bar of salt that you wet before using, the spray version of the crystal one…. The only all natural one that I've found that will get me completely through the work day without getting stinky again is Silver Shield, original formula. It's a small roll on, so you kind of go through them fast, but they work the best for me. 0 agree Reply I hands down recommend Schmidt's Deodorant: "Crafted by hand in the Pacific Northwest, Schmidt's Deodorant is made from a signature blend of 100% all natural ingredients that really works. Our formula effectively neutralizes underarm odor and absorbs wetness without the use of aluminum or other harmful chemicals. With a unique and enticing range of natural scent combinations like Bergamot + Lime, Cedarwood + Juniper, Ylang-Ylang + Calendula, Lavender + Sage and Fragrance-Free, Schmidt's Deodorant is a true pleasure to wear. We are proud to offer a product that is vegan, cruelty-free, propylene glycol-free, paraben-free and phthalate-free." My favorite scents are Ylang-Ylang+Calendula and Lavender+Sage. Check them out at http://schmidtsbeauty.com/Schmidts_Beauty/Home.html. 0 agree Reply I second this!! I live in the Portland area, and it's made here and I love to support local, but this stuff really, really, REALLY works. I'm a stinky chick and no matter what I used in the past, I was funkado by the end of the day. This product not only keeps me stank free, but on the occasion that I chose not to shower for a day or two (don't judge), it lasts for nearly 2 days. No lie. I will honestly never use anything else! 0 agree Reply I've tried using the salt rock that I've seen advertised, but my armpits were rubbed raw. Is this going to happen with any of the suggested deodorants? I am smelly too but really want to use something without aluminum. A teacher my Mom had in college, several years ago, said using deodorant with aluminum is the same as spray painting your underarms with professional aluminum paint. Scary when you think of it like that. 0 agree Reply For me, I alternate between homemade (I started with a recipe from Crunchy Betty, and then adjusted it until it was perfect for me) and that 'Crystal' stuff that comes in purple packaging (when I'm lazy and haven't made a new batch)… Not really sure of the actual brand name, but it is aluminum-free. One thing I've discovered very recently though is that my diet can affect how badly I need deoderant. When I was Ovo-Lacto-Pescetarian (I ate dairy, eggs, fish but not other meat for a few years) I very rarely even needed deoderant at all – except maybe on really hot days or if I was working out or something specific – but that all changed when I started eating red meat again. I didn't notice much of a difference when I added chicken back into my diet, but with red meat it's obvious. If I eat red meat, I stink by mid-day for about a week to follow. I love when I can find clear connections like that between what I eat and how my body reacts – helps me build guidelines about what food choices are right for me. 1 agrees Reply This inspired me to order some new deodorant (a coconut/arrowroot/essential oils mix). I had a pretty good experience with the soapwalla one, but it seems to have gone missing in my transatlantic move I am prone to underarm cysts, and I wonder if aluminum antiperspirants contribute to that? Do any other homies have the same problem? 0 agree Reply I use Arm & Hammer Essentials Solid Deodorant. It is just a deodorant, not an antiperspirant. It has no aluminum or parabens. I find it works well and is affordable. They also have an antiperspirant available, but I think it has aluminum. I encourage you to do your research tho, cause I've heard Tom's has some questionable practices, and I've heard that the FDA is looking into an ingredient called triclosan in the deo I use. It is an antibacterial agent that is found in everything from toothpaste to toys and kitchenware, but some people are worried about its possible side effects. Basically, I find this forum to be a good starting point, but additional research never hurts. 2 agree Reply I use the L'Occitane Verbena product: http://www.beauty.com/loccitane-en-provence-verbena-cooling-deodorant-stick/qxp221008 Or Pit Powder: http://www.isabellacatalog.com/p/Pit-Powder-Deodorant.cfm?tid=618020502&zmam=7946946&zmas=3&zmac=253&zmap=15611&zmam=7946946&zmas=3&zmac=2&zmap=15611 Second one stops only scent. They aren't heavy duty solutions but certainly I hope are helpful 0 agree Reply Ooh I know this one! Earth Science lavender & tea tree oil deodorant! (http://www.vitacost.com/earth-science-natural-tea-tree-deodorant-lavender). It is the ONLY thing that will make me not stinky — the tea tree oil is a natural antibacterial agent (I'm pretty sure), so it kills the stink-making buggers. Also it smells lovely but subtle and inoffensive. And it lasts really well! Keep in mind, though, that your body will need about a two-week adjustment period — switching between chemical & natural deodorants is one of the worst things to do stink-wise, at least in my experience. 0 agree Reply I love love love the unscented liquid crystal deoderant by the rocky mountain soap company. I am extremly sensitive to fragrance and chemicals and it is the best I've found.. 0 agree Reply I have had problems with sweat since I hit puberty, and I can't go without some heavy-duty things now that I'm a teacher in the Southwest. Yay for dictating your wardrobe based on what colors you can wear! I think it's more of a body response than anything else, but when I don't have to worry about things, I use this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/35641572/deodorant-cream?ref=shop_home_feat It is expensive, but it lasts for ages and is very easy to apply. It has some essential oils in it, so check to see if you're allergic/sensitive. The only time I had any issues with it was when I had a rash that made it impossible to wear ANY kind of deoderant; I just slathered on vitamin E and avoided people during my break that was filled with grading enormous stacks of things. It isn't an anti-persperant, but it has clay, so it does a decent job of keeping things more dry. I also use Secret during the week. Good luck! 0 agree Reply I'm not sure if self-promotion is kosher or not, but I sell products on Etsy, including an all-natural deodorant: https://www.etsy.com/listing/128457001/all-natural-deodorant-creme-1-oz?ref=shop_home_feat I struggled a long time trying to find a natural deodorant that actually worked (Crystals, Tom's, straight baking soda, etc.), and finally came up with my own recipe. It's the only thing that has continually worked for me. For those that like the DIY route, I know Frugally Sustainable also has a couple recipes on her website for deodorant: http://frugallysustainable.com/2011/11/homemade-probiotic-deodorant-that/ 0 agree Reply I have been switching around all the hippy non propylene glycol non aluminium one for years. And I think I will probably always be switching! In the past I used a crystal rock one that worked like pure gold, and I was working nightshirt emergency. One day however it fell out and smashed, and wiping a pointy rock isn't cool. So I bought a new one and it ceased to work. Lame. I currently used Desert Essence spring fresh, it's just a deodorant and it's an almost creamy soft bar I rub on in the morning. I have gotten quite used to my own scent over time. Now that I don't work up close to people all night, I feel less conscious. But I also have a small bottle of Dove's plum scent in my bag that I will spritz on if I have to go meet some clients. I have to say that moving from Australia to Canada has made me sweat a lot less!!!!!! 0 agree Reply So I don't shave and I don't use aluminum deodorant, and I can pretty much assure you that none of them work that well. Seriously, none of them. I'm a petite gal and light sweat-er but there are days I smell and those days happen fairly often. So I've developed a system, which is pretty darn effective if implemented daily, and this is it: Wash your armpits daily. Even if you're not showering that day, scrub your pits. I do this with tea tree oil Dr. Bronners castile soap. Put a bit of tea tree oil on your clean, dry pits. I use the straight oil, but Desert Essences also makes a spray that works well. it has witch hazel and rosemary oil too. After your tea tree oil dries it's time to apply that aluminum free goodness. I find that Desert Essences Chamomile Deodorant, though it has no scent, keeps me from smelling pretty well. Toms of Maine makes my skin literally fall off, so it's not for sensitive skin, but it does work pretty well. I've used the lavender one and the mens "fresh" scented one. Arm & Hammer's aluminum free deodorant works amazingly but it has Triglycerides which get into our water sources and poison fish, so stay away from that stuff if that concerns you. 0 agree Reply My husband works wildland fire and swears by gold bond foot powder. I was apprehensive at first, but it's honestly the best dry deodorant / dry shampooing have ever tried. 0 agree Reply I've been using Burt's Bees unisex deodorant (I get mine at Whole Foods) for years and have been quite pleased with it. Recently though, I took a chance and have given Schmidt's Beauty Natural Deodorant (www.schmidtsbeauty.com) a try and love it! 0 agree Reply I found Uncle Harry's Lavender/Tea Tree spray-on deodorant years ago when I was biking to/from work. It was the only thing that worked for me then and so I have been a devoted customer for many years since. I love the smell of it and am constantly getting compliments on how great I smell. It's so funny to watch people's reactions when I say "Oh thanks, it's my deodorant." My husband has become a faithful Uncle Harry's fan as well and uses their Sandalwood/Vetiver deodorant. They are all aluminum-free, non toxic, essential oil based products. Ingredients of the Lavender/Tea Tree are as follows: Colloidal silver water Rose water Lavender & Tea Tree essential oils Grapefruit seed extract I buy mine from my natural health food market, but you can also go to their website: http://www.uncleharrys.com 0 agree Reply I love both of NYR Organic's Lemon and Coriander and Lavender and Aloe deodorant. It's a spray and it smells fabulous. I was using Tom's, but I had to reapply throughout the day and I don't with this. *Full Disclosure, I am a consultant for NYR, but even if I weren't I'd still use this deodorant 0 agree Reply I like Crystal brand. I use the roll-on plus the "stone" variety at the same time. I personally also like to apply a mild alcohol-based body spray, which helps with staying dry and stops smells before they start; but I can't advise using any product for anything other than its intended purpose. 0 agree Reply I use a homemade deodorant, adapted from recipes I found online: 1/3 cup coconut oil 2 tbsp cornflour 1 tbsp bicarbonate of soda You can add essential oils to make it smell pretty, although I don't mind it plain – the coconut smell is nice and lasts all day. I live in Western Australia, where it gets very hot, and I find this recipe better than any commercial deodorant I've tried. While it doesn't prevent sweating, the cornflour and bicarb seem to absorb it pretty well. The only issue is that you can't use it right after a shower, so I tend to use plain cornflour straight after I shower. Maybe if you combine this with looser fitting or dark coloured and patterned tops, as suggested above, it will solve your problem 0 agree Reply I use the lime and sage deodorant from Al verde, one of the brands available at DM (www.dm.de) Only available in Europe as far as a I know. But it does work very well for me. 0 agree Reply For strictly deodorant, I use anti-bacterial gel – basic hand sanitizer! It kills the germs that cause odors (isn't that an old commercial?), and it WORKS. I don't bother with an anti-antiperspirant, just because it's gonna come out somewhere, and if it comes out under my arms, as long as it doesn't stink, I don't care. 0 agree Reply I use Tom's and it works for me, so I've stuck with it, but I recently saw a video where they reviewed about 5 different types of natural ingredient deodorants and they found this was the winner. http://www.herbancowboy.com/ Wish I could find the video, but I don't remember what site it came from. 0 agree Reply I always break out with aluminum deodorants, so I use Arm & Hammer Essentials or Lavanila's Healthy Deodorant (which I pick up at Sephora). 0 agree Reply Join the conversation Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked * Comment Notify me of follow-up comments by email. No-drama comment policy Part of what makes the Offbeat Empire different is our commitment to civil, constructive commenting. Make sure you're familiar with our no-drama comment policy. 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